Head Coach Breakdown Part 1

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GmanTN

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Numerous names have been voiced for our new head coach. The names of Butch Davis, Chris Peterson, Brian Kelly and Steve Sarkisian have been the leaders in these discussions so lets examine Butch Davis and Chris Peterson first.

Butch Davis - Spent 6 yrs at the helm of Miami from 1995-2000, Cleveland Browns 01-04, UNC 07-08
95 record 8-3 0verall 6-1 conference UM
96 record 9-3 Overall 6-1 conference UM
97 record 5-6 Overall 3-4 conference UM
98 record 9-3 Overall 5-2 conference UM
99 record 9-4 Overall 6-1 conference UM
2000 record 11-1 Overall 7-0 conference UM
2001 record 7-9 Cleveland Browns
2002 record 9-7 Cleveland Browns
2003 record 5-11 Cleveland Browns
2004 record 3-8 Cleveland Browns
2007 record 4-8 Overall 3-5 conference UNC
2008 record 6-2 Overall 2-2 conference UNC

Chris Peterson - In just two seasons as the head coach at Boise State, Chris Petersen has already established himself as one of the top young football coaches in the country. During his 2 yr tenure at the Broncos’ helm, Petersen has guided Boise State to a 23-3 record and a pair of bowl game victories. His teams have been ranked in the top 25 in offense each year and 33rd or higher in defense each year. Only one coach since 1900 has won 13 games in his first season at the helm of a Division I football team. That coach was Petersen in 2006 as he led Boise State to a 13-0 record.

As I examined these 2 coaches and their body of work I would have to cast my vote for Peterson because he has done more with less. I agree some will say that Butch is more suited for the SEC but I disagree. When he was at the helm of Miami he was good but lets also consider that their is more talent in the state of Florida than Idaho. Since Butch has left Miami he has not been impressive where Peterson has recruited athletes to Boise and has done an excellent job of coaching the game. Given the talent the SEC has in it and the fact Peterson can coach his kids X's and O's plus the fact he is young I feel he could take the Vols to a new and exciting era not to mention he would cost less money then Butch.
 
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Look at the situation he stepped into at Miami. Speaking of easy recruiting in Florida. He lost 31 scholarships over a 3 year period because of the previous coaching staff, Erickson. He's already got UNC on the way up.

As far as Peterson goes, he is doing more with less against lesser competition too.

Butch Davis would absolutely kicks Peterson's arse on the recruiting trail.
 
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I'm not sure about Peterson, but I watched Kelly Thursday night against USF and he was pretty intense on the sidelines.
 
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TENNFOLD1974 said:
I'm not too familier with Peterson...is he a firey type of character.
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Anyone who can recruit to Boise St. has to be fiery, you do not get blue chip 5 star recruits who want to come to Boise because lets face it Idaho is not that attractive. Given the passion, tradition and the conference he would rock. I also failed to mention that Butch had a cancer scare in 2006 and his health may not be all they say it is.
 
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GmanTN said:
Anyone who can recruit to Boise St. has to be fiery, you do not get blue chip 5 star recruits who want to come to Boise because lets face it Idaho is not that attractive. Given the passion, tradition and the conference he would rock. I also failed to mention that Butch had a cancer scare in 2006 and his health may not be all they say it is.
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The fact that he is winning against WAC competition doesn't prove that he'll be able to recruit.
 
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chavisut said:
Look at the situation he stepped into at Miami. Speaking of easy recruiting in Florida. He lost 31 scholarships over a 3 year period because of the previous coaching staff, Erickson. He's already got UNC on the way up.

As far as Peterson goes, he is doing more with less against lesser competition too.

Butch Davis would absolutely kicks Peterson's arse on the recruiting trail.
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I am not saying I endorse Peterson totally this is only part 1 but between the 2 Butch's record reminds me too much of Fulmer. If you compare his last 16 yrs of coaching it looks to fulmerish for me.
 
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GmanTN said:
I am not saying I endorse Peterson totally this is only part 1 but between the 2 Butch's record reminds me too much of Fulmer. If you compare his last 16 yrs of coaching it looks to fulmerish for me.
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Records might be similar but you have to look at the different situations both were in. I've already mentioned the probation Miami was on when he took over. He has also done about as much as you could expect at UNC in his first two seasons. I doubt anybody thought they would be 6-2 at this point.
 
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chavisut said:
The fact that he is winning against WAC competition doesn't prove that he'll be able to recruit.
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He beat OU in the Tostitos bowl in 07 with far less talent on a trick play. You can say luck or say creativity but his passion to come out a winner you cannot discredit. Let's say he cannot recruit as well as Butch but if he makes believers out of his kids and we win who cares. It still comes down to X's and O's and anyone who can take a team that was off the charts in rankings and in 3 short years have them in the top 25 for 3 straight years has to know a little about the game.
 
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GmanTN said:
He beat OU in the Tostitos bowl in 07 with far less talent on a trick play. You can say luck or say creativity but his passion to come out a winner you cannot discredit. Let's say he cannot recruit as well as Butch but if he makes believers out of his kids and we win who cares. It still comes down to X's and O's and anyone who can take a team that was off the charts in rankings and in 3 short years have them in the top 25 for 3 straight years has to know a little about the game.
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Boise State wasn't off the charts when he took over.
 
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the thing WAY too many of you all forget is that Peterson walked into an already established Boise St. He didn't build that program, he just inherited a program that was ready to take off.

Give me Butch over him any day of the week.
 
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chavisut said:
To compete in the SEC, you have to recruit well.
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In case you missed ESPN gameday this morning Kirk and Lee agree that TN has had great athletes but not great teams. Coaching in college can make up for a lack of talent to a degree and it is obvious the man can coach. Remember he is the only coach since 1900 to take a division 1 team undefeated in his first yr of coaching. Thats a record no matter where they began their coaching to admire. Last I checked we all love Bruce Pearl because his teams come ready to compete and desire to win and he is not the top recruiter in the SEC but we have won the SEC East the past 2 years.
 
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GmanTN said:
In case you missed ESPN gameday this morning Kirk and Lee agree that TN has had great athletes but not great teams. Coaching in college can make up for a lack of talent to a degree and it is obvious the man can coach. Remember he is the only coach since 1900 to take a division 1 team undefeated in his first yr of coaching. Thats a record no matter where they began their coaching to admire. Last I checked we all love Bruce Pearl because his teams come ready to compete and desire to win and he is not the top recruiter in the SEC but we have won the SEC East the past 2 years.
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He took over an already good team, with a cake walk of a schedule, led by a senior QB. A couple of trick plays and he is a coaching God.
 
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volfanbill said:
the thing WAY too many of you all forget is that Peterson walked into an already established Boise St. He didn't build that program, he just inherited a program that was ready to take off.

Give me Butch over him any day of the week.
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Boise St. was 11-1 in 2004 and 9-4 in 2005 for a combined 20-5 Peterson in the same span has gone 23-3and has increased strength of schedule while doing so.
 
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GmanTN said:
Boise St. was 11-1 in 2004 and 9-4 in 2005 for a combined 20-5 Peterson in the same span has gone 23-3and has increased strength of schedule while doing so.
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I'm not totally sure how they do the math, but this site proves you wrong:

TeamRankings.com - NCAA Football

Boise State's SOS since 2003 (all years entering bowl week, except this year):

2003: 117
2004: 105
2005: 110
2006: 117
2007: 120
2008: 116
 
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chavisut said:
Wow, he took a team from 20-5 to 23-3.
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why do u always have to argue with everyone??
all he's trying to say is that he thinks Peterson and Davis would both be good coaches, but that in his opinion, Peterson would be a better fit based on his youth, passion, and coaching ability........personally, I could care less, as long as we get BETTER.......I don't think our offense can get much worse........
 
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tabrams said:
why do u always have to argue with everyone??
all he's trying to say is that he thinks Peterson and Davis would both be good coaches, but that in his opinion, Peterson would be a better fit based on his youth, passion, and coaching ability........personally, I could care less, as long as we get BETTER.......I don't think our offense can get much worse........
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A. you couldn't care less and B. all chavis is pointing out that Boise St is essentially where it was when he took over.
 
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volfanbill said:
the thing WAY too many of you all forget is that Peterson walked into an already established Boise St. He didn't build that program, he just inherited a program that was ready to take off.

Give me Butch over him any day of the week.
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In 2002, Peterson became the offensive coordinator at Boise State.
So he had nothing to do with building that program?
 
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chavisut said:
Tabrams, all I'm doing is stating my opinions as well. Sorry I hurt your feelings awhile back. Didn't we agree to ignore each other.
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it's fine, bro.......we're all on the same team, been a rough year.......we should all try to get along better and not be so sarcastic....
 
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