HBO's "Game of Thrones"

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BowlBrother85 said:
I didn't find his poisoning very satisfying. He deserved much worse. Ramsey's death was done much better.
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Joffrey's death was prefect in that it was extremely unexpected in terms of when it happened. If Game of Thrones was any other show, he gets eaten by a dragon in the final episode.
 
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Daloth said:
Ned. To have to explain all of his bull**** lies that eventually caused all of this mess. Even if he only told his wife it would at least have saved Jon from being hated forever by his "mother."
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That information would be the most dangerous in Westeros for the Starks. And he promised Lyanna..it literally haunted his dreams every night. It scared him. It doesn't sound like you've read the books. I understand if you haven't read the Ned POV chapters in TGoT, why people don't understand.
 
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I'm half way through season 5. Trying 1-2 episodes a night. Very interesting series. If not for this thread I wouldn't have started it.
 
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WarDamnVols said:
Joffery

just so he can immediately be brutally killed again.
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They should have kept him around and had him put in the same prison as his mother. His outrage would have been classic. Plus he needed to be tortured by Ramsey Snow some how, that was the most sadistic character I have ever seen in a movie/show.

As far as bringing someone back it would be Ygritte..girl John Snow loved.
 
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I was kidding about bringing Joffery back.

It's a tough call, but I'd probably bring Oberyn back. Wouldn't mind seeing him go back down to Dorne to see the **** his honey and his bastards had started down there.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I will miss Margaery Tyrell (Natalie Dormer and her cute crooked smile)...

To whoever wants to answer: if you could bring back one character for the final season, who would it be?
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From the TV show? Barristan Selmy. Dude deserved a much better death than being gang stabbed in some little alley by some nobody thugs.
 
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Whew.....this thread makes for a loooonnnnnnggggg read. lol

I'd never watched a single episode of GoT until this summer when I decided to give it a shot. I finished it up last week. It's been a very good series, one of the better series that I've watched. This genre isn't really in my wheelhouse, so I don't have any interest in reading the books (which seem like a real b**** to follow anyhow) but I can't wait for Season 7 to arrive. For me, this past season was the best so far. I was sooooo glad to see Ramsay get what was coming to him. I really liked his character, and he was a totally sadistic psychopath. If only Joffrey's death would have been more painful or gruesome....he was definitely the character I despised the most. Now, I eagerly await seeing the demise and hopefully brutal death of Cersei, although I was glad to see her destroy the Westerosi Baptist Church.

I love Jon Snow and Tyrion.

Melisandre (not the old lady version) is HOTTT!!!

The one Sand Snake is HOTTT!!!

I can't say that I'm rooting for Baelish, but he's definitely a great character...and seems to have his hand in every cookie jar in Westeros. I hope he doesn't wind up the victor in the end.

I hated seeing The Hound "die" as his character was just beginning to grow on me. Now that he's known to be very much alive, I can't wait to see where his journey leads.

Arya = Assassin. Definitely the most cutthroat of the Stark clan. Don't piss her off.

Jaime. At first, I didn't like him at all. Now, I think he's a man of honor and he has a heart. Not sure what will happen between him and Cersei now, but he's not happy about her new role as Queen. I don't know if that's because he know the kind of ruler she will be (ruthless and terrible) or because he now knows that she doesn't love him the same way he loves her.

All in all, it's a great series.










But it's no "The Wire". JMO.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
That information would be the most dangerous in Westeros for the Starks. And he promised Lyanna..it literally haunted his dreams every night. It scared him. It doesn't sound like you've read the books. I understand if you haven't read the Ned POV chapters in TGoT, why people don't understand.
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I know exactly how the books are, and how it's haunted ned (you even see it some in season one.) But it doesn't change the fact that this entire situation could've been avoided by him simply telling Robert the truth, and if Robert freaks out he kills him. And I personally don't think Robert would have killed the kid because he loved Lyanna and would've done as she wished.

Furthermore, he lies about the Tower of Joy completely with nothing to gain and says he wins the sword fight when that's also not what happened. He's an honor bound guy and had no reason to lie about that, simply say "The guy was so damn good it took numerous men to take him down but we managed to kill him."

Now Bran, who seems to be the key to saving the world, has to carry the brunt of the fact that his father was a coward and started the domino effect of this whole series when he could've stopped it that very day. There's a great chance the white walkers could take over Westeros after the fight we're going to have between the two women powers, when instead we could have had one united ruler and probably had this entire situation stopped already since the king would either be Robert, and adopted/raised Jon, or at the least Ned might still be alive to be the hand of the king to actually do something.
 
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I'm not really sure how you're reaching these conclusions. Ned coming clean about Jon puts Jon's life in danger. And I'm not sure how the events of the series are due to Ned being a 'coward.'
 
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Daloth said:
I know exactly how the books are, and how it's haunted ned (you even see it some in season one.) But it doesn't change the fact that this entire situation could've been avoided by him simply telling Robert the truth, and if Robert freaks out he kills him. And I personally don't think Robert would have killed the kid because he loved Lyanna and would've done as she wished.

Furthermore, he lies about the Tower of Joy completely with nothing to gain and says he wins the sword fight when that's also not what happened. He's an honor bound guy and had no reason to lie about that, simply say "The guy was so damn good it took numerous men to take him down but we managed to kill him."

Now Bran, who seems to be the key to saving the world, has to carry the brunt of the fact that his father was a coward and started the domino effect of this whole series when he could've stopped it that very day. There's a great chance the white walkers could take over Westeros after the fight we're going to have between the two women powers, when instead we could have had one united ruler and probably had this entire situation stopped already since the king would either be Robert, and adopted/raised Jon, or at the least Ned might still be alive to be the hand of the king to actually do something.
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Ned Stark...Coward? Wow..that's out there. I'm not going to start arguing with you though. It's your opinion..so just go with it I guess. Since you say you've read the books. It is just a really off the wall perception of the overall story. Robert Baratheon would have done exactly what Lyanna was afraid of, if he really knew she ran off with Rhaegar, he would have killed her too, and Ned never bragged about how he killed Arthur Dayne in any book I can think of. Whatever people thought about how heroic it was, came from somewhere else.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Ned Stark...Coward? Wow..that's out there. I'm not going to start arguing with you though. It's your opinion..so just go with it I guess. Since you say you've read the books. It is just a really off the wall perception of the overall story. Robert Baratheon would have done exactly what Lyanna was afraid of, if he really knew she ran off with Rhaegar, he would have killed her too, and Ned never bragged about how he killed Arthur Dayne in any book I can think of. Whatever people thought about how heroic it was, came from somewhere else.
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In the show, it was implied that Bran had been under the impression his father defeated Dayne (although it doesn't necessarily mean he performed some incredible feat). I can't remember if Ned mentioned Howland Reed saving him in the show or not.

In any case, Ned certainly wasn't boasting about it, books or show. He freely admitted there were better fighters out there, and Dayne was one of them.
 
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tvolsfan said:
In the show, it was implied that Bran had been under the impression his father defeated Dayne (although it doesn't necessarily mean he performed some incredible feat). I can't remember if Ned mentioned Howland Reed saving him in the show or not.

In any case, Ned certainly wasn't boasting about it, books or show. He freely admitted there were better fighters out there, and Dayne was one of them.
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Exactly...The show drops the ball sometimes on little but big things like this a lot. I get that show watcher only types don't get the full picture sometimes, because they are not privy to first person thoughts like book readers are. So I understand how other characters perceive each other, is often misunderstood as the how and the why of who that character truly is. Jon is pretty much just like Ned. A man who's true self is based on duty, sacrifice and honor to a fault.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Exactly...The show drops the ball sometimes on little but big things like this a lot. I get that show watcher only types don't get the full picture sometimes, because they are not privy to first person thoughts like book readers are. So I understand how other characters perceive each other, is often misunderstood as the how and the why of who that character truly is. Jon is pretty much just like Ned. A man who's true self is based on duty, sacrifice and honor to a fault.
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Anybody that's ever read a literary work of fiction that gets translated onscreen recognizes that a book (much less a series) fleshes out characters and plots much more extensively and satisfactory than it's visual counterpart. To match the extent of the books, HBO would still be producing the first book and most of us (and the author) would be dead before the second even gets cast. Refusing to read the books before this series ends it's run has allowed me to enjoy it without comparing...and I have. The only books that translated better on film has been the John Grisham works imo.
 
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