Have A Little Faith in Our Program...

#26
#26
LawVol13 said:
It's a totally different job than the one Jerry Green or Wade Houston took. Also, Doug Dickey won't be making the calls on this one.
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I definitely agree that Tennessee can find a coach that can do as good a job here or better than B Pearl. That being said,one only has to look around the SEC to see that hiring the right coach is not that easy.

I think will hire a mid major coach that is on is way up who has had a good run the past few yrs. Whether that coach proves to be able to make the move up or is fired in three yrs is unknown. It is not nearly as easy as alot of people on the site makes it sound.
 
#27
#27
g8terh8ter_eric said:
The biggest problem we are going to face next year is the roster. We are going to lose in all this, somewhere around 70% or more of our scoring. That's why I think we will suck, but it takes "solid" recruiting to bring it back, which I have no doubt will happen. Pearl did not recruit his style of ball well, and it REALLY showed this year. He also tried to become a half-court coach, and that failed miserably, but that was by his own recruiting.

The next coach we bring in needs to be a coach that teaches fundamentals and defense. I don't care about scoring 80+ points a game, I care more about being a tough minded defensive team that gets transition points. Those are the teams that get it done year in and year out.
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I think Pearl & staff had to play a type game that his players could play. No sense in having a shootout if the chances are against you doing the run & gun if they can't hit the shots; you just get beat quicker and by a larger margin. Yes, things could have been better, they also could have been worse. If they can Bruce which seems inevitable then I won't be following TN men's BB anymore, and I doubt I'll be alone. It's not just a matter of can we get another coach equal to or better, it's a matter of principle, and loyalty which seems the administration has zero.
 
#28
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chuck0303 said:
I think Pearl & staff had to play a type game that his players could play. No sense in having a shootout if the chances are against you doing the run & gun if they can't hit the shots; you just get beat quicker and by a larger margin. Yes, things could have been better, they also could have been worse. If they can Bruce which seems inevitable then I won't be following TN men's BB anymore, and I doubt I'll be alone. It's not just a matter of can we get another coach equal to or better, it's a matter of principle, and loyalty which seems the administration has zero.
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I support coach pearl and wish the administration would as well, but I will follow Tenn basketball the rest of my life. If we avg 1 win a season, I will still be there cheering.
 
#29
#29
I think we're going to suck for a while (2-3 years) either way. I guess it depends on what the sanctions end up being, though. Neither a suspended CBP nor a new coach willing to work for our schizophrenic administration while under intense scrutiny fill me with excitement. Maybe that's harsh on our ability to hire, but there wasn't exactly a line of (reputable) candidates waiting to be offered the football job.
 
#30
#30
chuck0303 said:
I think Pearl & staff had to play a type game that his players could play. No sense in having a shootout if the chances are against you doing the run & gun if they can't hit the shots; you just get beat quicker and by a larger margin. Yes, things could have been better, they also could have been worse. If they can Bruce which seems inevitable then I won't be following TN men's BB anymore, and I doubt I'll be alone. It's not just a matter of can we get another coach equal to or better, it's a matter of principle, and loyalty which seems the administration has zero.
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You are okay with Tennessee not having a coach for 1 to 3 years?
 
#31
#31
LawVol13 said:
I honestly think our roster is a little underrated. I think Kenny Hall has the potential to be really solid. I think Trae Golden and McRae also have potential. What they need is a coherent offensive system, something they didn't have this year.
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Yes and Maymon as well . JMO on folks that get there shorts in an uproar the "delete" button is a great tool .
 
#32
#32
LawVol13 said:
I honestly think our roster is a little underrated. I think Kenny Hall has the potential to be really solid. I think Trae Golden and McRae also have potential. What they need is a coherent offensive system, something they didn't have this year.
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They have potential, but replacing over 70% of our scoring isn't going to lead to great success. I would say we will be lucky to win 15-17 games next year, and get an NIT bid.
 
#33
#33
JZVOL said:
Agreed. I'm so sick seeing the "welcome back to 5 K fans back in TBA" when the fans are the one's who can control how many people go to games and support the program. We've tasted success so if the next coach doesn't cut it we'll find someone else who will.

I don't see UT going back to not caring or supporting the BB program after the past 6 years,
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I will guarantee only one thing in this whole ordeal: there will be a very big crowd at TBA to welcome in the new coach (assuming a change is made) this fall.

Make the right hire, and the Vol faithful will support him.
 
#34
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
They have potential, but replacing over 70% of our scoring isn't going to lead to great success. I would say we will be lucky to win 15-17 games next year, and get an NIT bid.
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Players will take on bigger roles. Many of our players may flourish in the right offensive system. It's way too early to be chalking up next season as being crappy yet.
 
#35
#35
LawVol13 said:
Players will take on bigger roles. Many of our players may flourish in the right offensive system. It's way too early to be chalking up next season as being crappy yet.
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Other than Tatum, and he wasn't exactly on fire the last part of the season, I don't see one legimate threat to score for us next year. We have a bunch of, at least what I see, washed up transfers on the team that wouldn't start for any other team in the SEC. That's a BIG problem.
 
#36
#36
Domestic Silence said:
What's funny are the people saying if we lose Bruce we will be terrible forever, yet they are calling everyone else "Negavols"...

LV made some great points some of you need to realize. This University is committed to keeping this program up...quit your whining and let them do it. You complain no one is going to go to TBA...how about you just buy a damn ticket to the next home game and shut the hell up? How about you quit being such a fair-weathered fan and get some tickets and keep showing up. You say you love the program right? Jesus. You are the same people that complained when we hired some no-name tanned man from Wisconsin. It will be alright people, it will be alright.
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Here's food for thought: I have been to fewer games this year than I have in the past 4-5 years, and (although I haven't had as much free time) my enthusiasm has been tempered by the current situation and play of the team (which was likely influenced by the uncertainty, as well). I'm not alone. Several of my friends have "tuned out" this year, knowing that a kick-in-the-balls was coming.

So, before everyone claims that attendance will be down and that the fans will lose interest, consider that some of that may have already happened and will likely grow if we have a suspended coach for a year or two. You think the Tommy will be full with Bruce in a bunker?
 
#37
#37
kiddiedoc said:
Here's food for thought: I have been to fewer games this year than I have in the past 4-5 years, and (although I haven't had as much free time) my enthusiasm has been tempered by the current situation and play of the team (which was likely influenced by the uncertainty, as well). I'm not alone. Several of my friends have "tuned out" this year, knowing that a kick-in-the-balls was coming.

So, before everyone claims that attendance will be down and that the fans will lose interest, consider that some of that may have already happened and will likely grow if we have a suspended coach for a year or two. You think the Tommy will be full with Bruce in a bunker?
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That's an excellent point.
 
#38
#38
LawVol13 said:
Also, Doug Dickey won't be making the calls on this one.
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I think so many people have had their perspective colored by the bad coaching hires of the past that it's difficult for them to have much faith that we'll get a good coach this time.
 
#39
#39
Velo Vol said:
I think so many people have had their perspective colored by the bad coaching hires of the past that it's difficult for them to have much faith that we'll get a good coach this time.
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That's reasonable. I just don't share that opinion.
 
#40
#40
Velo Vol said:
I think so many people have had their perspective colored by the bad coaching hires of the past that it's difficult for them to have much faith that we'll get a good coach this time.
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That is it in a nutshell.

You can't keep Pearl after all that has happened. But I do not understand how you can keep Hamilton and expect to get a quality coach to work for him.

Hopefully, there is an adult or two at work who will promise the future coach that our pig will be under tight controls before he shoots his mouth off again.
 
#41
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Other than Tatum, and he wasn't exactly on fire the last part of the season, I don't see one legimate threat to score for us next year. We have a bunch of, at least what I see, washed up transfers on the team that wouldn't start for any other team in the SEC. That's a BIG problem.
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I think Golden can be a very good combo guard. He can shoot the ball better than he did this year and passes very well. I think Kenny Hall has the potential to be a very solid inside presence. I think McRae has the ability to be an excellent scorer; with a summer in the weight-room and a coach that can get him a little more disciplined, he's got a chance to be really good. I think Maymon's better than what he played this year as well.
 
#42
#42
LawVol13 said:
I think Golden can be a very good combo guard. He can shoot the ball better than he did this year and passes very well. I think Kenny Hall has the potential to be a very solid inside presence. I think McRae has the ability to be an excellent scorer; with a summer in the weight-room and a coach that can get him a little more disciplined, he's got a chance to be really good. I think Maymon's better than what he played this year as well.
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They showed nothing on the court this year that leads me to believe any of that. I sure hope your right though.
 
#44
#44
LawVol13 said:
When you essentially play unorganized street ball as an offense, no one looks very good.
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How is that different than the past few years though?? We haven't looked like a decent team on the half court since Loften and Smith left, and even then it wasn't exactly run to perfection.
 
#45
#45
g8terh8ter_eric said:
How is that different than the past few years though?? We haven't looked like a decent team on the half court since Loften and Smith left, and even then it wasn't exactly run to perfection.
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I think his point is that it's possible that some of our players could look a lot better if they knew what the heck they were supposed to do.
 
#46
#46
g8terh8ter_eric said:
How is that different than the past few years though?? We haven't looked like a decent team on the half court since Loften and Smith left, and even then it wasn't exactly run to perfection.
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We don't have a person like J.P. Prince that could just break down the difference and mitigate the fact that we don't run an offense.
 
#47
#47
kiddiedoc said:
I think his point is that it's possible that some of our players could look a lot better if they knew what the heck they were supposed to do.
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Well then, hopefully we have a new coach then, not like we won't though. I just hope they are better than they looked this year. Kenny Hall is probably the most disappointing recruit that Pearl has brought in so far.
 
#50
#50
LawVol13 said:
I'd first like to express my gratitude to Bruce Pearl for what he's done for this program. I've often questioned things about his coaching philosophy, but I've never questioned him being a good coach. His results speak for themselves. The Elite Eight last year was the proudest UT sports moment I've had since the '98 National Championship; it's something I'll always remember.

Now, it is clear that now is the time to start anew with the basketball leadership, and many seem to think that that means an instant return to mediocrity. I understand your devotion to Bruce Pearl to an extent, but have some faith in our program, especially considering what it is today compared to what it was when Bruce Pearl took it. We have one of the premier arenas in the nation; we have a state of the art practice facility; we're top 5 in attendance; we were paying a coaching salary that ranked in the top 10 in the country; we've made the NCAA tourney 10 out of the last 14 years. We can get a good coach here. Have a little faith.
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I've been out today and haven't checked volnation much. Now I'm dropping in, I just want to say this is an excellent post.

I fall slightly further on the Pearl side than you do, but that's fine. I agree 100% with the sentiment here. Have some faith in the program.
 
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