Has the transfer portal reduced the value of high school recruiting?

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I don't think there is any replacement for high school recruiting, because a majority of your class should come from the high school ranks.

The unfortunate fact of the matter is that for every Hendon Hooker transferring simply because he wants a better opportunity to play, there are a variety of kids in the portal because they have some sort of either behavioral, academic, or other problem behind the scenes.

What the transfer rule does, however, is allow a discerning coach to try and plug holes that need immediate attention that you cannot get from incoming freshmen. For example, Hooker, Tremblay, Terry, etc. The key, though, is finding guys that have multiple years of eligibility left who fit your culture. That can be difficult to do. Otherwise, you are continually trying to hit the portal to plug those holes with nothing waiting in the wings.
 
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Speaking of portal, anyone know how close Tennessee was with Zach Evans before he went to TCU?

Anyone hear or know of any possibility of him coming to Tennessee now?

Landing a 2020 5 star RB would be awesome right about now.

Only wondering because I know he had “considered” Tennessee before ultimately choosing TCU.
 
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FBtime said:
No because just like the NFL, you cannot build your roster on free agents (i.e. transfers). You need a solid base in recruiting and use transfers to fill immediate needs and you need to really have a high success rate on those. Your culture is built with recruits that came to you from HS and learned the system. You need that so transfers that come in can quickly assimilate and fall in line. Too many transfers and you will have a me me me attitude that's prevalent.
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I agree to a point, but the difference is that you can lock players in for a period of time in the NFL. With college transfers, you are completely at their mercy. Oklahoma is seeing this today. I won't be surprised if in the next couple of years that coaches across the country look at what is happening with Riley leaving OU and decide to reign in the portal in some way.
 
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The Portal has impacted CFB in a negative way, as has the early signing date. Remember when we were all in for the February signing Day, and watched our signees as they went from true freshmen (Or Redshirts) all the way to becoming Seniors? We felt like they were family, knowing them for a 4-5 year period. Now, it's who can we steal from another team? Tradition has gone to hell. I don't like it, but have to live with it. Free agency in College Football. That's what it is, regardless of how you label it.
 
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The biggest issue is that the staff now has to recruit those same 25 guys every year they are eligible. They are essentially recruiting the whole team all the time.
 
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It seems like many times a kid is transferring to a s hool he considered out of high school so building and maintaining relationships even after a kid has committed to another school is important. As previous poster said, it will be a challenge for coaches to develop players over the years and keep them happy when the can transfer so easily. In some respects high school recruiting is less important IMO. The best coaches will look for opportunities to fill out their rosters with experience transfers.
 
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computergeekvol said:
Just a serious question. I know that high school recruiting gets all the attention, but has it lost most of its luster due to the new world related to the transfer portal?
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Maybe not from a media perspective because they’ve yet to figure out how to make bank off of it, but in terms of the overall health of a football program? Absolutely.
 
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No room to take projects from HS .. if portal numbers count against your 25 you'll see teams sign 15 to 20 from HS and round out with a more proven product from the portal leaving out those diamonds in the rough.. they can xfr in after a year or two developing at a lower tier
 
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wmcovol said:
The "rich" can overcome recruiting mistakes real fast with the portal. No more kids staying 4 years without being a starter at an Alabama, Ohio st.
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Just as it was our demise last year (though we also benefited)...I believe it can help teams w/ upwards trajectory build faster. In reality, if JH gets Hooker back and adds important pieces in the trenches w/ a few skill players, we may make some noise next year.
 
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How coaches handle the transfer portal will definitely impact their relationships with HS recruits. When considering a school, now HS players not only have to consider who they have to compete against that is already on the team, but also who the coach might add. Any coach who develops a reputation for frequently covering underclassmen with more experienced transfers, will eventually struggle to get HS kids to sign with his school.
 
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I think the portal has not settle yet and is still evolving, right now it is still more of a I am not happy with my playing time so I am leaving. It's different times and different mindset that the historical and the portal will be a big part of how it shapes out but whatever it is right now is not likely how it stays. Just my humble opinion.
 
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computergeekvol said:
Just a serious question. I know that high school recruiting gets all the attention, but has it lost most of its luster due to the new world related to the transfer portal?
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No. Teams still want to get the best players in from HS. However, it does take away some of the pain of a wrong projection when a team can go to the portal for that position.
 
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computergeekvol said:
Just a serious question. I know that high school recruiting gets all the attention, but has it lost most of its luster due to the new world related to the transfer portal?
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I think it’s more important now to get the right guys through high school recruiting. Space in recruiting classes should be a little tighter if teams are taking transfers. So instead of 25 in a typical SEC class might see 22-23 high school kids taken with a handful of transfers. Of course I could be completely wrong on the way numbers are handled, it was hard enough to figure intial counters, back counters, etc before transfer portal became a thing.
 
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I would say for certain it has increased the value of coaching & staff continuity.

And, maybe, it has increased the market value of intangibles, like team-family, atmosphere, dedication, and other intangibles which bring out the best in a player.
 
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Sara Clark said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, aren't teams limited to how many they can pull from portal? If so, it's not nearly enough to fill a roster. TN, I think can pull up to 7 this year. If this is the case, recruiting high school athletes will still be in big demand.
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I dont think we get 7 unless 7 leave via the portal..this year
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
I think I saw where Texas State built their entire class on transfers so I dont believe there is a limit on how many they can take.
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Correct, the plus 7 is to replace up to outgoing transfers. If you have X outgoing transfers, you can sign up to 25 plus X players(scholarship availability depending), there is no minimum HS recruit number in any situation.

The plus 7 was implemented to increase available spots to those who go into the portal and have no place to land.
 
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JohnWardForever said:
The Portal has impacted CFB in a negative way, as has the early signing date. Remember when we were all in for the February signing Day, and watched our signees as they went from true freshmen (Or Redshirts) all the way to becoming Seniors? We felt like they were family, knowing them for a 4-5 year period. Now, it's who can we steal from another team? Tradition has gone to hell. I don't like it, but have to live with it. Free agency in College Football. That's what it is, regardless of how you label it.
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All the changes shifted more power to the players and I'm all for that. Next stop should be not only NiL but paying players openly. They are out here giving coaches 10 or 12 million dollars a year, spending half a billion on facilities and claiming poverty at the same time.
 
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