Has Butch had his "Signature Win"

[MyBloodRunnethOrange]

#11 not top 10.

They ended the season at #4. That's the only ranking that matters.

 

[volman92]

Continous improvement, more wins each season, 2 straight solid bowl wins. I dont get the significance of a "signature win" if Penn State doesnt win much else, does the win against Ohio State really matter?

Imo agree with this, we've improved our win total each year, so to me that's better than the signature win

 

[beamerman]

No. And it's even worse now...

I didn't know Butch has been here nine years. Oh wait, doesn't this include Fulmer too or is it all Butch? DD counts but shouldn't since he probably would never beat a top ten team. Kiffin probably would. How many teams have beaten Bama this year? Do we want to try again or wait until we get some more players? 11-2 with a Sugar Or Orange Bowl win would actually be better I think than 11-3 another loss to Bama and a Citrus Bowl win, don't you think?

 

[Tenacguy50]

I don't believe that's true. Wasn't South Carolina #8 when we beat them a couple years ago?

I believe they were #11 at the time.

 

[Tenacguy50]

Florida and Uga are both terrible this year. Uga lost to vandy last weekend. And yet we needed a Hail Mary to beat them. We needed a missed extra point to be ap state. All while having the second most talented team in the sec. We have 15 players on this team that will play in the nfl. And you're applauding the guy. Let that sink in a bit

I believe TN has had more injuries this year than usual.

 

[Tenacguy50]

This thread sums up our fan base. Butch has plenty of signature wins..

- Beat USC when they were good and had Spurrier and we had basically no team
- Beat UGA basically costing Richt his job and then beat his replacement who was highly touted as the second coming of Saban
- Beat a highly ranked Northwestern team like a friggin drum
- Beat Florida for the first time since "Friends" was still airing on NBC

He has increased his wins by 2 every year and started with nothing. He is doing it right. Enough with this crap

Beat a highly ranked Northwestern team like a friggin drum and Iowa.

 

[tvolsfan]

CBJ sweeping both Fla and UGa this year stands for signature victories...And--going undefeated in the SEC East this year should also shut a lot of mouths....

When was the last time we did that???

A strong finish to get to 10-2 with the walking dead from injuries will be a phenomenal accomplishment!! And 11-1 was truly in reach without all the fumbles...:salute:

Sorry, the east is a dumpster fire. Not giving him a pat on the back for beating a bunch of slop.

 

[tvolsfan]

They ended the season at #4. That's the only ranking that matters.

I do agree with this.

The reason South Carolina doesn't seem like a signature win is because they don't have the name brand of Ohio State or Alabama. That was still an impressive win over a really good team. The only problem is he hasn't topped that.

 

[swchandler1988]

Sorry, the east is a dumpster fire. Not giving him a pat on the back for beating a bunch of slop.

Because we're so above that 🙄 We haven't won the east in nearly ten years and you won't be happy with Butch if we do this year?!?! GTFO. Just ungrateful man, that's pathetic.

 

[OneVolNation]

I had a feeling after watching the Penn St. vs Ohio St. game and hearing Franklin's win described as his "signature win" that people would get caught up with the buzzword.
Sure enough, it's a thread topic. I guess it does provide a change of pace from reading "win out", "wins out", "if we win out", "if they win out" and all its derivatives every other sentence. Snapping the streak against Florida, I think, could definitely be his signature win. That win against Northwestern was a nice way to cap off last season and raise expectations for what this year's team might do too.

 

[BoseefusTheVol]

Ending the humiliating Florida streak is Butch's signature win. He doesn't really have another one. The South Carolina win is nothing because they are, were, and forever will be only South Carolina, whether they were ranked 1,4,8 or 11.

 

[Hairy Vols]

Sorry, the east is a dumpster fire. Not giving him a pat on the back for beating a bunch of slop.

YOU'RE not giving him a pay on the back. That's to bad. I'm sure Butch will be really upset he doesn't have your approval. Smdh. Get your head together.

 

[Boca Vol]

As with anything subjective, a "signature win" is going to mean different things to different people...and that's OK. That's what message boards are for.

IMO, Butch has several signature wins at UT:

'13 S. Carolina. While they don't have the pedigree of an OSU, Oklahoma, UF, Bama, etc. that was still a very good team.

'15 UGA. Signature more from being behind so far and coming back like they did.

'16 UF. Again, being behind by a lot and given the history with UF to come back and get the monkey off their back in the fashion they did is plenty "signature" enough for me.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Florida, Georgia & Alabama are signature wins @ the University of Tennessee. Butch has one last hurdle to jump. Fortunately for us, if he gets over that last hurdle (Bama) it will mean we are truly one of the best teams in the country.

 

[tvolsfan]

YOU'RE not giving him a pay on the back. That's to bad. I'm sure Butch will be really upset he doesn't have your approval. Smdh. Get your head together.

Of course he won't care about my approval. He has the approval of an extremely passive fan base who can't wait to give him a raise and extension for every minor accomplishment, despite the fact that there is zero demand for him.

 

[tvolsfan]

Ending the humiliating Florida streak is Butch's signature win. He doesn't really have another one. The South Carolina win is nothing because they are, were, and forever will be only South Carolina, whether they were ranked 1,4,8 or 11.

See, that's the problem. That South Carolina team probably beats this Florida team.

 

[tennrich1]

I think all that matters is where we are now. Are we where we want to be- no of course not BUT we are miles ahead of where we were. I think Coach needs to make a couple more assistant upgrades and more recruiting, but we are making strides. If you dont turn the ball over seven times, we beat A&M and I dont see anyone giving Alabama a game.

We ain't where we wannabe, we ain't where we gonna be, but thank goodness we ain't where we used to be!!!

 

[tennrich1]

NO! We need a win against a team in which we are a huge under dog. Such as last weekends game against "O Bama"
Beating someone whom we are predicted to lose to by a couple of points is NOT a signature win. We need to SHOCK THE WORLD

I think the world would be amply SHOCKED if it would read these post on VOLNATION...

 

[landscapingvol]

The East was a dumpster fire when CPF was here as well outside of UF. Remember those great 90's teams of UGA, SC, Vandy, and UK? The truth is he is the first coach since Fulmer in 04' to beat UGA and UF in the same year and the first coach since Fulmer in 98' to win 10 games in a row.

 

[volfan102455]

My opinion is worth the same amount of points as anyone else on here's...except vfl34. His is worth double. At least. Lol. But seriously it's very difficult to discuss this team and potential big wins while ignoring the massive glaring issue...our coach will literally take a knee instead of trying to score out of fear. And so few either seem not not recognize this or are unwilling to admit it. Weird

And your dislike for the coach is blinding your ability to recognize progress of this team.

And the bias is so deep that you don't even realize that other coaches (even Saban, Meyer, et al) in similar situations typically make the same decisions that Coach Jones makes.

If he took gambles and they went south, you would be complaining about that saying this coach or that coach would have done something different.

 

[VolinMC]

It wasn't long ago we went 5-7 for 3 straight years. This regular season can end at 10-2. I think doubling the win total,changing the culture and talent improvement after the hole the team was in 3 short years ago is a signature win in itself.
I remember some people saying beating Florida or winning at Georgia would impress them at the start of the season and be signature wins. This happens and it's not good enough now.(go figure.lol)
Also some said they would be happy being in the conference race come November,guess that goal post gets moved also.

 

[ruger1234]

I think it was Bobby Bowden that once said "the definition of a big game is any game you didn't win"

 

[MyBloodRunnethOrange]

It only matters what they were ranked when Tennessee beat them. You can't be that dumb. Because they are what they are when Tennessee plays them. You don't project forward or backward.

Tennessee beat the 11th ranked team that day. Where they ended up is irrelevant.

That's one of the dumbest things I've ever read on here. The final ranking is the only one that is relevant.

 

[Wylo]

That's one of the dumbest things I've ever read on here. The final ranking is the only one that is relevant.

It's the only thing relevant, I agree.

But this discussion started on signature win, then shifted to Butch being 0-for his tenure here vs top 10 teams. That is real.

I'm not one of the people wanting to jump off a cliff about this season. This had been a good year for Tennessee.

The A&M loss still angers me because of the lack of discipline, but the Alabama game was just a combination of Butch being Butch and Bama being better and healthier.

Butch won't beat Saban. Butch plays too conservative to pull that one off, in my opinion. That's okay for now, because so many other things are done well.

 

[tnmarktx]

To some fans Butch will never get his signature win, until he wins the national title. Being a Tennessee fan it pains me to say this, but we are probably the dumbest fan base in America.