Has Azzanni Overstayed His Welcome?

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#102
Tennessteve said:
Our receivers don't get open that's often. They don't let dobbs throw that often. When you're not in rhythm and a guy finally pops open, sorry, but those throws aren't routine.

Dobbs is a good QB. Not his fault.
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A good quarterback can throw a catchable ball to a reciever when he is open. Dobbs has proved he can't do this consistently. If your blaming others for the fact that Dobbs cannot throw an accurate ball then your are either seriously in denial, or you haven't watched a game all year.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Its improved but far from a good SEC OL.
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We are middle of the pack in sacks allowed but 2nd best in the SEC East behind only UGA. We have also played Oklahoma, Florida and Bama who all get after the QB. We have only allowed four more sacks than Alabama and twelve less than Florida who is the worst in the conference at protecting the QB. We also lead the SEC East in rushing yards and it isn't close. I stand by my statement that the line is not as bad as people claim.
 
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Coug said:
As "Wide Receivers" coach and "Passing Game" coordinator has Azzanni overstayed his welcome here? He's basically had a season and a half with Dobbs and a slew of wide receivers to get a decent passing game together and has failed to do so.
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Our wr have only began to run real routes. The game plan for 2 1-2 years was run deep or block. Our wr just now running real routes and timing with our qb won't be great this year. I don't think we will see what our passing game is capable of till next year. Jmo
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Throw game needs an O-Line.
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It also needs WR that can create separation, run consistent routes, are physically in shape and healthy, and improve each game/season. All failures with Azzani..

He does seem to recruit and the players like him, I only want to move on if we have Tee Martin or somebody strong lined up.
 
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I personally don't put the blame on azzanni.... I don't think he has done the best job, but I really point the finger at debord. That whole hire was just shady and I think he has really shat the bed. So if that means butch needs to make changes at both positions then so be it, but I'd be happy with a new oc.
 
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KBVol said:
With all due respect, if that's all you got regarding this subject, you should go ahead and take the rest of the holiday weekend off.
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If that is indeed true, I find it hard to grasp. We need five or six Preston Williamses. Or five or six more Josh Smiths. We need stud receivers who can stay healthy, separate, fight and beat press-man, and catch the damn ball.
 
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Titan&Volfan4life said:
Sorry that facts and truth upset you coug.

Also I did NOT put all the blame on the QB my friend.

Please find someone that really knows college football and all it takes to rebuild and maintain a consistent Winning program and all it takes to have a good passing game.

You'll feel better once you have a serious understanding of college football buddy.

This is all the drama attention you'll get from me today kid.

I don't play the childish drama arguements that go on and on.

#BrickbyBrick...VFL...GBO!!!
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First off I'm not claiming Dobbs is a great QB, he has issues. He's made bad throws but he's also made throws where it looks like the receiver should have been there and wasn't. I've seen him, in game, stare down a receiver that was clearly supposed to be where he threw the ball but wasn't. Those types of things are on the wide receiver coach.

FlyFishnVol said:
Why can't any of you Negavols just enjoy a Win? instead, you lives are so empty and useless that you sit at home and over analysis a game, a play, a coach etc. etc.

1. Offenses score

2. Defenses try to prevent scoring

4 of the 4 games we had leads in the 4th Qtr, we scored more than the other team. I am not blaming the Defense, I think they were still jelling as a unit, but the Offense has scored enough points to win every game........no one is perfect, except the perfect idiots that post these lame threads.........Happy Thanksgiving.
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Posing a question about a coach where there is legitimate evidence to back up the question does not make a negavol.

omghulkhands said:
There are a myriad of problems

Dobbs has consistency issues

Receivers are poor against press coverage

Receivers don't fight for the ball

Receivers don't get open as often as they should

offensive line has been great run blocking, but poor at pass blocking (basically the opposite of the 2011 line)

We do one thing well on offense and that is run the football. Luckily, we have done that VERY WELL.

Lot of improvement across the board needs to be made in the throw game at all levels
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Do the bolded statements not fall under the WR's coach?

deaconkane said:
Our wr have only began to run real routes. The game plan for 2 1-2 years was run deep or block. Our wr just now running real routes and timing with our qb won't be great this year. I don't think we will see what our passing game is capable of till next year. Jmo
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Fair enough statement, it's possible.
 
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Folks can leave off blaming the OL now. So it isn't lost in my longer post, the OL is 7th in the SEC in sacks allowed (5th vs the conference). They've allowed 21 sacks. Twelve of those sacks have come against Bama, UF, and OU. Bama and UF are #1 and #2 in the SEC in sacks. They rank 3rd, 5th, and 4th nationally in sacks.

And some of the sacks especially early in the season were a product of Dobbs' failure to manage the pocket well. The OL isn't a major problem in the passing game now.
 
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deaconkane said:
Our wr have only began to run real routes. The game plan for 2 1-2 years was run deep or block. Our wr just now running real routes and timing with our qb won't be great this year. I don't think we will see what our passing game is capable of till next year. Jmo
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Where did you get this information about the game plan? I don't buy it. Real football people made fun of the stance our coach puts our receivers in at the line. This group is under-performing based on their recruiting ranking and it could be a combination of things but things need to get better. As I said earlier they can't all be busts out of high school.
 
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Has there been another report of Butch helping another position coach in practice? This should be evidence of what's to come.
 
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omghulkhands said:
There are a myriad of problems

Dobbs has consistency issues

Receivers are poor against press coverage

Receivers don't fight for the ball

Receivers don't get open as often as they should

offensive line has been great run blocking, but poor at pass blocking (basically the opposite of the 2011 line)



We do one thing well on offense and that is run the football. Luckily, we have done that VERY WELL.

Lot of improvement across the board needs to be made in the throw game at all levels
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I would also throw in our insane WR rotation.
 
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DenmarkVol said:
If that is indeed true, I find it hard to grasp. We need five or six Preston Williamses. Or five or six more Josh Smiths. We need stud receivers who can stay healthy, separate, fight and beat press-man, and catch the damn ball.
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LOL. Where are you gonna find 5 or 6 Preston Williamses? We need the WRs we have to start getting healthy and living up to their hype.
 
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To hang the passing game issues on one guy , is silly and inane . Unless you are privy to insider info , you cant have enough information to hang it on one guy . If you did have enough info ...you would probably find that the issue is multifaceted and no single magic bullet is going to correct it

A ) the Oline has been inconsistent . They are young , with limited depth . The have improved dramatically since lat season and over the length of this season despite some key injuries. These injuries have affected the running game too.
B ) Dobbs was heavily managed during the early part of the season and technically rough as a passer . He held the ball too long and stared down potential receivers . He has improved tremendously a the season has progressed but i still managed at time due to his occasional inaccuracy and penchant for throwing the ball into coverage
C ) the receivers were a point of strength coming into the season but with injuries and suspension, they have become a younger unit with less depth

All of thee issue are intertwined . Many of the coaching point and player development will simply take time . The improvement over the length of the season is the real talking point IMO . I think many of the problems with the above A B C are being improved . I am not sure who is causing the improvements, who is hindering improvement ...I dont have that inside information
 
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jarnol32 said:
A good quarterback can throw a catchable ball to a reciever when he is open. Dobbs has proved he can't do this consistently. If your blaming others for the fact that Dobbs cannot throw an accurate ball then your are either seriously in denial, or you haven't watched a game all year.
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Do you only watch Tennessee football? Yes, tennessee has been spoiled with NFL caliber arms, and our fanbase just doesn't know how to act when we have a qb that lacks ELITE accuracy. I never said he was overly accurate, I said our OC doesn't always let him get into a rhythm. QBs all over the country miss wide open throws though. It happens.

Dobbs IS 10th in all time passing yards in tennessee history.
Dobbs IS 10th in all time passing touchdowns in tennessee history.

Both are obviously only through 3 seasons. I will take that all day.
 
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d4ster3 said:
Azzanni's not even a good recruiter anymore. We just lost Kyle Davis to Auburn. 4 and 5* are not going to come here to block and get 3 targets a game.
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Well it's not like the kid is going to see very many passes at Auburn either
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
The throw game has had weapons: size, speed, athleticism, freak skills.

The throw game has been disjointed and guess what - it's not Josh Dobbs's fault.

The throw game coordinator has underperformed and if this offense is about blocking first and catching second I don't think we're going to have all those weapons for much longer.

"Throw game" and O-line are the major work needed in the offseason to take what should have been a 10-win team and turn them into SEC Champions.

I can't think of a more germane discussion on VolNation right now.
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Yes Dobb's is equally at fault. Its 25% Coaching,25% Dobbs,25 OLine and 25% Receivers. It's a combo of all,but it is time for CZA to be gone and get a real WR Coach in. .
 
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DenmarkVol said:
If that is indeed true, I find it hard to grasp. We need five or six Preston Williamses. Or five or six more Josh Smiths. We need stud receivers who can stay healthy, separate, fight and beat press-man, and catch the damn ball.
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We need 5 or 6 five-star WRs? What? No, we need well-coached WRs who know how to get off man coverage, run their routes correctly at the right depths, get some separation and catch "catchable" balls. Our WRs are plenty talented.
 
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omghulkhands said:
Downfall?

I'm often labeled a negavol, but our offense is nowhere near worthy of "downfall"

Passing is an area of improvement, but we have had a solid and respectable offense all year
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Maybe I should've said downfall of the passing game instead of offense.
 
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d4ster3 said:
Azzanni's not even a good recruiter anymore. We just lost Kyle Davis to Auburn. 4 and 5* are not going to come here to block and get 3 targets a game.
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So kyle davis didnt pick the Vols. Because the defieciencies in our passing game and he chose auburn for the great passing game they have and are accustom to having.the vols passing game has more attempts,completions,completion percentage and touchdown.s and the Vols have better qb commits for16 and 17.so you saying 4* and 5*are not going to come here for 3 targets a game.your quote is lacking everything.if kyle davis is going to au rather than UT it is not the reasons you suggest unless he is an idiot.because UT has better qb coming in in next fww yearsand auburn hasand always will be a run first team.
 
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