Has Azzanni Overstayed His Welcome?

#76
#76
The excuses you hear on this board are ridiculous. Nothing is Jones and his posse fault, you should be used to that by now.

And if you feel any differently you hate UT. Gotta love the black and white world that is UT fandom. I can't wait to watch Butch fail Saturday. Obviously, that's why I spend my money and time going over there every other week.
 
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#77
#77
Typical VN, LOL!

The fastest to reply and most vocal seem to always be those that know the least about college football and how to rebuild a team and a solid, consistent program.

Talk to any NFL coach and they'll tell you 1 of the most important things for a WR to learn is how to block correctly and successfully and our kids start to learn that from day 1 which is important if you want a solid run game which every team needs.

Any great WR coach will tell you that learning how to correctly become a good WR takes lots of time for most kids, even in the NFL, because there's lots more to it than running a route and catching a football.

Intelligent people know that great recruiting has been and always will be the number 1 most important thing in college football to build and maintain a great, successful program.

Coach Azzanni is a excellent recruiter and he's a huge part of why our Vols footVol tean has come so far in such a short period of time and that's 1 of the reasons he got a pay raise and a position improvement.

You can NOT have a good passing game until you have a solid O line that's good at pass blocking.

Any good O line coach will tell you it's much easier to learn how to run block and that pass blocking is much harder and takes much more time to perfect the pass blocking craft.

You can NOT have a good passing game if your QB is sporadic and not consistent with his passing accuracy, it just doesn't happen.

Every smart O coordinator that doesn't have all the pieces together for a good passing game will limit passing plays as much as he can until the pieces all come together and then the passing playbook will open up more.

Coaches can only call the plays that the team can execute well and they'll avoid what doesn't work well as much as they can in order to stack up as many WINS as they can throughout the season.

Our playcalling is limited because our QB isn't great with accuracy consistently, because our O line can't pass block consistently and the key is CONSISTENTLY.

You better be thankful that we have great recruiting from Coach Azzanni because without him we would probably still be a 5 Win team.

Those that can't see us getting better each year against some of the top 10 teams in the nation better take their blinders off and go try to actually learn what it really takes to rebuild a college football team back into a solid program.

Azzanni will probably get some good paying offers to leave our Vols soon and if we lose his great recruiting and coaching our Vols will start going backwards again.

Be very careful what you wish for folks, you might just get it and then badly regret it.

#BrickbyBrick...VFL...GBO!!!

Like replacing a hall of fame coach with Dooley
 
#82
#82
As "Wide Receivers" coach and "Passing Game" coordinator has Azzanni overstayed his welcome here? He's basically had a season and a half with Dobbs and a slew of wide receivers to get a decent passing game together and has failed to do so.

Give him another year...or point the blowtorch towards Debord. Don't really care about why we have consistently underproduced. Just care about results. The "passing game" has been largely MIA in too many games this year...especially considering all the supposed weapons we have.

If our "passing game" sputters through next season at the same pace, I expect we might see some coaching adjustments.

Who knows? Coach Z may not even be here for spring practice...might find an offer he can't refuse to coach somewhere else...after signing day, of course.
 
#83
#83
Typical VN, LOL!

The fastest to reply and most vocal seem to always be those that know the least about college football and how to rebuild a team and a solid, consistent program.
Speaking of "typical". It seems you often accuse those who disagree with you about a coach or most anything of not knowing anything about football.

Why not stop trying to poison the well. There a A LOT of people here who know MORE than you who happen not to agree with your knee jerk responses.

Talk to any NFL coach and they'll tell you 1 of the most important things for a WR to learn is how to block correctly and successfully and our kids start to learn that from day 1 which is important if you want a solid run game which every team needs.
And you think after 3 years they haven't had time to learn that and then learn enough to be effective receivers?

Any great WR coach will tell you that learning how to correctly become a good WR takes lots of time for most kids, even in the NFL, because there's lots more to it than running a route and catching a football.
Two things. One, that's why most CFB programs use scheme rather than precise routes to get receivers open. Two, Trooper Taylor and Cut made Lucas Taylor, Josh Briscoe, and Austin Rogers one of the most effective WR groups in the SEC in 2007. They didn't stay hurt all the time... and UT has at least 6 WR's on the current roster better than any of them.

There are A LOT of WR coaches who have done more with less... and faster.

Intelligent people know that great recruiting has been and always will be the number 1 most important thing in college football to build and maintain a great, successful program.

Coach Azzanni is a excellent recruiter and he's a huge part of why our Vols footVol tean has come so far in such a short period of time and that's 1 of the reasons he got a pay raise and a position improvement.
"Intelligent people" also know that he isn't the only WR coach in the business who happens to also be a good recruiter.

Any good O line coach will tell you it's much easier to learn how to run block and that pass blocking is much harder and takes much more time to perfect the pass blocking craft.
This is ABSOLUTELY untrue. It is somewhat scheme related but Chaney developed the Vols young OL in '10 first in pass blocking because it was simpler and easier for them to learn first.

You can NOT have a good passing game if your QB is sporadic and not consistent with his passing accuracy, it just doesn't happen.
I agree Dobbs misses too many routine throws... but it isn't an either/or proposition. Dobbs needs to be better. The WR's need to be more effective.

Every smart O coordinator that doesn't have all the pieces together for a good passing game will limit passing plays as much as he can until the pieces all come together and then the passing playbook will open up more.
So how much longer than 3 years does it take? You are really stretching to defend Azzani.

Our playcalling is limited because our QB isn't great with accuracy consistently, because our O line can't pass block consistently and the key is CONSISTENTLY.
BS. Dobbs is a big part but the OL has been effective this year and pretty consistent. They've allowed 21 sacks. Nine of those came to Bama and UF who are #1 and #2 in the SEC in sacks. Three more came against OU who is 1st in the Big 12. Those teams rank 3rd, 4th, and 5th nationally in sacks.

I would say the OL has done its job well this year in both run blocking and pass pro.

You better be thankful that we have great recruiting from Coach Azzanni because without him we would probably still be a 5 Win team.
That... is just plain dumb. There are MANY WR coaches out there who can coach AND recruit. Further, top shelf WR recruits don't want to just block or learn the fundamentals. They want to make plays. If the passing game doesn't get better pretty quick then that well is going to dry up... it has already based on this being the first year since Jones arrived that UT doesn't seem to have strong interest from any of the top WR's in the country.

Those that can't see us getting better each year against some of the top 10 teams in the nation better take their blinders off and go try to actually learn what it really takes to rebuild a college football team back into a solid program.
Take your own blinders off and realize that the pass game is lagging behind pretty badly.

Azzanni will probably get some good paying offers to leave our Vols soon and if we lose his great recruiting and coaching our Vols will start going backwards again.

Be very careful what you wish for folks, you might just get it and then badly regret it.

#BrickbyBrick...VFL...GBO!!!

You... have outdone yourself.

And I'm someone who believes the passing woes probably have more to do with the demands of Jones' system on WR's than any other specific thing. That said, Azzani's group from a demonstrated skill standpoint have just left a lot to be desired. Too many drops. Unable to get separation. Unable to get their share of 50/50 balls.
 
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#85
#85
Serious question. What has the downfall of the offense had to do with Azzani? It starts with the top. DeBord calls the plays.
 
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#86
#86
Yea no doubt, makes me wish Freak would pull the plug on his servers sometimes because of all the dumbazz threads.

Azzani is top tier recruiter and untill we get some accuracy issues, running route issues, injury issues and youth issues taken care of it's asinine to say hes wore out his welcome.

Why is it the negavols never look at the big picture and factor everything in??

Well here's a idea, if you don't like reading others opinions, stay off Volnation because its for everyone to give their opinions and thoughts about Tennessee athletics. The nega vol crap and calling others idiots because you don't agree with them is Pathetic!
 
#87
#87
Remember when North made a "circus-catch" against USCe with his tip-toes in bounds?

My point is that I can remember a whole lot more of dead-on passes being dropped than I can spectacular catches by WRs for quite a while now.

To be honest, our WR corp hasn't been the same since Kippy Brown left several years ago. I don't understand it either considering I've seen so many other lesser ranked WRs out of high school perform admirably for other teams.

I would assume skills-position-coaching would (could have) something to do with it.
 
#89
#89
Serious question. What has the downfall of the offense had to do with Azzani? It starts with the top. DeBord calls the plays.

Downfall?

I'm often labeled a negavol, but our offense is nowhere near worthy of "downfall"

Passing is an area of improvement, but we have had a solid and respectable offense all year
 
#90
#90
good grief. im away for one day. and this is a real topic for discussion? Azzani is a good coach. We have had lots of injuries here guys. We told Preston Williams he was our guy. We didnt take any other marquis guys last cycle because of that, and it wasnt a need.

With all due respect, if that's all you got regarding this subject, you should go ahead and take the rest of the holiday weekend off.
 
#91
#91
Hey, I realize that this team didn't close the deal on a couple of big games they probably should have won but it's only been 3-4 yrs since Tennessee was being beat 38-10, 38-6, 52-7 AND teams were calling off the dogs in those games in the third qtr.!
 
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Speaking of "typical". It seems you often accuse those who disagree with you about a coach or most anything of not knowing anything about football.

Why not stop trying to poison the well. There a A LOT of people here who know MORE than you who happen not to agree with your knee jerk responses.

And you think after 3 years they haven't had time to learn that and then learn enough to be effective receivers?

Two things. One, that's why most CFB programs use scheme rather than precise routes to get receivers open. Two, Trooper Taylor and Cut made Lucas Taylor, Josh Briscoe, and Austin Rogers one of the most effective WR groups in the SEC in 2007. They didn't stay hurt all the time... and UT has at least 6 WR's on the current roster better than any of them.

There are A LOT of WR coaches who have done more with less... and faster.

"Intelligent people" also know that he isn't the only WR coach in the business who happens to also be a good recruiter.

This is ABSOLUTELY untrue. It is somewhat scheme related but Chaney developed the Vols young OL in '10 first in pass blocking because it was simpler and easier for them to learn first.

I agree Dobbs misses too many routine throws... but it isn't an either/or proposition. Dobbs needs to be better. The WR's need to be more effective.

So how much longer than 3 years does it take? You are really stretching to defend Azzani.

BS. Dobbs is a big part but the OL has been effective this year and pretty consistent. They've allowed 21 sacks. Nine of those came to Bama and UF who are #1 and #2 in the SEC in sacks. Three more came against OU who is 1st in the Big 12. Those teams rank 3rd, 4th, and 5th nationally in sacks.

I would say the OL has done its job well this year in both run blocking and pass pro.

That... is just plain dumb. There are MANY WR coaches out there who can coach AND recruit. Further, top shelf WR recruits don't want to just block or learn the fundamentals. They want to make plays. If the passing game doesn't get better pretty quick then that well is going to dry up... it has already based on this being the first year since Jones arrived that UT doesn't seem to have strong interest from any of the top WR's in the country.

Take your own blinders off and realize that the pass game is lagging behind pretty badly.



You... have outdone yourself.

And I'm someone who believes the passing woes probably have more to do with the demands of Jones' system on WR's than any other specific thing. That said, Azzani's group from a demonstrated skill standpoint have just left a lot to be desired. Too many drops. Unable to get separation. Unable to get their share of 50/50 balls.

Let's all give sjt a well deserved round of applause. He nailed it dead center. Azzani is the weak link and we will be known as Wide Receiver Useless if we don't start developing and utilizing the talent we have on this team at WR.
 
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Hey, I realize that this team didn't close the deal on a couple of big games they probably should have won but it's only been 3-4 yrs since Tennessee was being beat 38-10, 38-6, 52-7 AND teams were calling off the dogs in those games in the third qtr.!

Young team and some bad play calling in the 4th quarter, but if you think about it you can question play calling in every defeat, even GOD SAINT NICK in the NC game chocked all he had to do was to keep running the ball against Ohio State and Nick would have had another NC in the trophy case, Even GOD has game or 2 of bad play calling, so why don't we wait till this time next year and see what we got but when we go 10 and 2 you still will be able to question the play calling in a defeat.
 
#97
#97
The throw game has had weapons: size, speed, athleticism, freak skills.

The throw game has been disjointed and guess what - it's not Josh Dobbs's fault.

The throw game coordinator has underperformed and if this offense is about blocking first and catching second I don't think we're going to have all those weapons for much longer.

"Throw game" and O-line are the major work needed in the offseason to take what should have been a 10-win team and turn them into SEC Champions.

I can't think of a more germane discussion on VolNation right now.

I'm sorry but when you have a qb who misses as many throws as Dobbs does it's hard to blame the lack of a passing game on coaches or recievers. Anyone that's watched a game this season can see that Dobbs struggles tremendously with his accuracy, and the passing game suffers because of it.
 
#99
#99
Idk what he does in practice, but the guy gets our receivers injured like no other. It's to the point I'm more worried about what's going on during game prep, and seeing if we have any players injured.

Love his recruiting, but that's doesn't outweigh what he's done on the field. Adios, coach Z.
 
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First of all you got to have a QB that can hit a WR wide open on a sideline route.

Our receivers don't get open that's often. They don't let dobbs throw that often. When you're not in rhythm and a guy finally pops open, sorry, but those throws aren't routine.

Dobbs is a good QB. Not his fault.
 

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