Has another QB ever really had a TRUE chance to play?

[gobigorange91]

Last year after the awful play of Guarantano at Alabama I think we all thought for sure that we would not see him again. Yet I can’t remember a game where he has not played? Even when they start another guy he always gets to come in. I know Pruitt keeps saying he is the best chance to win. But when you keep losing like this you have to pull the plug and give someone else a TRUE chance at playing. He yanks them after one or two bad plays. Yet Guarantano just keeps getting endless chances. I just feel like he never gives anyone else a real chance to play and get the job and the rest of the QB’s know that. I also honestly wonder if the QB competition has ever been truly open or if everyone knew that he would always go with Guarantano. Anyone else feel this way?

 

[gobigorange91]

Also I know that Maurer had the concussion that knocked him out but would he have been given a fair chance? Was it just bad luck that JG kept getting to come back in last year and doing just enough to keep getting to play?

 

[cgrish]

Last year after the awful play of Guarantano at Alabama I think we all thought for sure that we would not see him again. Yet I can’t remember a game where he has not played? Even when they start another guy he always gets to come in. I know Pruitt keeps saying he is the best chance to win. But when you keep losing like this you have to pull the plug and give someone else a TRUE chance at playing. He yanks them after one or two bad plays. Yet Guarantano just keeps getting endless chances. I just feel like he never gives anyone else a real chance to play and get the job and the rest of the QB’s know that. I also honestly wonder if the QB competition has ever been truly open or if everyone knew that he would always go with Guarantano. Anyone else feel this way?

I feel the same way, he has went with jg from the start, it is my understanding no other qb has taken any snaps from the ones but jg. And way way too short of a leash on the back ups. One mistake and they are out, and in comes jg. I have never seen anything like this before.

 

[fullmetalvol]

If you don't have a QB capable of running your offense, then you design your offense to the QB you have and you recruit. It's on the coaches! Yes, our other QB's have done well on throws then throw 2 or 3 hair pullers and JG is sent back onto the field. I just don't think our offensive set of coaches can develop a QB to run Chaney's offense. Maybe HB can if he gets the chance.

 

[Kngsport VFL]

Guaranteeloss

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Also I know that Maurer had the concussion that knocked him out but would he have been given a fair chance? Was it just bad luck that JG kept getting to come back in last year and doing just enough to keep getting to play?

If Maurer hadn't gotten the concussion, I don't believe he would have lost the starting job. That concussion was pretty bad.

 

[Rememberthe1990s]

Maurer was given a legit shot last year. He got hurt and threw a ton a picks. But they did give him a chance. Shrout was only put in for a series, before they would go straight to jg.

 

[Mightyvol]

I feel the same way, he has went with jg from the start, it is my understanding no other qb has taken any snaps from the ones but jg. And way way too short of a leash on the back ups. One mistake and they are out, and in comes jg. I have never seen anything like this before.

In a way I feel sorry for JG. He is being put in a situation, starting QB role in the SEC, that he can’t be successful in. I have heard he knows the play book, but he doesn’t seem to know where the open receiver should be based on the defense. He is very slow to process and execute which spells disaster when pressured. He is tough as nails and how he has avoided serious injuries is amazing to me. So my question is, what coach would put this guy in this position? One who doesn’t see the obvious? One who doesn’t care? I am at a loss because if you care one iota for JG, at best he is a back up QB in the SEC. when the QB quits on the team and the team quits on the QB and coach, how do either recover? Tough to watch UT football the last 6 quarters.

 

[landscapingvol]

If you don't have a QB capable of running your offense, then you design your offense to the QB you have and you recruit. It's on the coaches! Yes, our other QB's have done well on throws then throw 2 or 3 hair pullers and JG is sent back onto the field. I just don't think our offensive set of coaches can develop a QB to run Chaney's offense. Maybe HB can if he gets the chance.

Precisely, it's not like Chaney runs some vaunted offense that cannot be stopped. There is no creativity within this offense and there is no designed plays to overcome the offensive line's lack of production. Give Eddie Gran credit, he has adjust UK's offense to adjust to the lack of ability of the qb but JG has the honored distinction of not being able to hit the broad side of a barn with a pass or run faster than a wounded turtle.

 

[JMSqb11]

Also I know that Maurer had the concussion that knocked him out but would he have been given a fair chance? Was it just bad luck that JG kept getting to come back in last year and doing just enough to keep getting to play?

My honest opinion is that we shoulda rolled with Shrout after Bama with a combo with Jennings running the offense like he did. JG has clearly not taken that huge step forward that many claimed he would likely do with a second consecutive year with same OC. Maurer had bad luck with injuries. My hope is that Bailey gets the start vs Bama. For the mentality, it’s easier for a young guy to play against a big time opponent knowing the score is 0-0 vs coming in when you’re down 14-21 points. If he doesn’t start, i hope he gets entire second half if game is out of hand and roll with him rest of season.

There is zero benefit to keeping JG out there outside of being on the whooping post to take brunt of Bama defense to start the game

 

[The Original Fade]

The problem is that Maurer and Shrout are not SEC caliber QBs. Here are their offer lists out of high school for evidence:

Maurer - TN, Appy St., Boston College, Charlotte, and Cincy

Shrout - TN, Cal, Ball St., Colorado St., Hawaii


Those are AWFUL offer lists. And yet so many think these guys are capable of playing in the SEC? We were the only SEC offers these guys had.

 

[volfan4lyfe]

No. Simple answer.

Pruitt has never given either JT or Maurer (to a much lesser extent than JT) a chance to play without a significantly limited playbook.

 

[give_him 6]

Its not like this current offensive playbook is working or is even being run efficiently. Chaney and offensive staff need to adapt to personnel at QB to make them successful. Plenty of coaches do this but we can't seem to figure it out.

 

[savannahfan]

I feel the same way, he has went with jg from the start, it is my understanding no other qb has taken any snaps from the ones but jg. And way way too short of a leash on the back ups. One mistake and they are out, and in comes jg. I have never seen anything like this before.

I wonder with the demands from us fans (does VolNation have this big of an impact) to win now puts so much pressure on the staff and Admin. that they are afraid to let the kids learn on the job? I will grant that JG likely is the best chance of winning "right now" but backups given some time to learn and win or lose on the job, is this not what we and others would do if JG had fallen of the side of the earth?? As it is we are living and dying with JG, who will sometime or other move on. Then we will have to live or die for a second time with a young'un. Lets move on from JG and take our medicine ONE time not TWO times.

 

[savannahfan]

The problem is that Maurer and Shrout are not SEC caliber QBs. Here are their offer lists out of high school for evidence:

Maurer - TN, Appy St., Boston College, Charlotte, and Cincy

Shrout - TN, Cal, Ball St., Colorado St., Hawaii


Those are AWFUL offer lists. And yet so many think these guys are capable of playing in the SEC? We were the only SEC offers these guys had.

Were they not offered at a time when "any port in a storm" situation existed?

 

[savannahfan]

Its not like this current offensive playbook is working or is even being run efficiently. Chaney and offensive staff need to adapt to personnel at QB to make them successful. Plenty of coaches do this but we can't seem to figure it out.

And what exactly is JG's best skill for them to adapt too?

 

[calban]

With no one to develop QB talent it isn't likely to change until Pruitt finds a staff or his way back to Bama.

 

[lifeVol]

If the crescendo to give another QB a shot were occurring due to a mistake or two in the last game or two, it wouldn't be justified (IMO), but we are 3+ years in building this crescendo and it is justified, only to be apparently stymied by a coaching staff who have either backed themselves into a corner and are trying to prove themselves right, or even worse, fearing having failed to develop a replacement will expose their ineptness

 

[25801VOL]

I think Chaney has his hands tied by an overbearing coach and a QB who’s accuracy is questionable and goes completely out the window when facing adversity.

The QB issue in my opinion is all recruiting and development. We haven’t recruited a 5th year senior or a high school QB capable of beating out the worst game day QB in Tennessee football history. The coaches have also failed to develop their 5th year senior or the other three QB’s on the roster into a SEC starting QB.
Jmo.

 

[golfballs]

Pruitt is clearly not married to JG as he probably would have been done for had Maurer not gotten hurt. Unfortunately I think our backups have not been developed as they should have been or negatively impacted by offseason issues

 

[1vol8]

The problem is that Maurer and Shrout are not SEC caliber QBs. Here are their offer lists out of high school for evidence:

Maurer - TN, Appy St., Boston College, Charlotte, and Cincy

Shrout - TN, Cal, Ball St., Colorado St., Hawaii


Those are AWFUL offer lists. And yet so many think these guys are capable of playing in the SEC? We were the only SEC offers these guys had.

Another clueless quote. This was his list PRE Elite 11 which also includes WVU and UCF. POST Elite 11 includes what you won’t see. He had another 10+ offers from the likes of UGA, UF, Penn St, Miami, Notre Dame, UCLA and several others I can’t remember off the top of my head. He CHOSE for those offers to remain confidential because he’d already committed to UT. When he put out the tweet that he was “shutting down” his recruitment? He did that because UGA was blowing him up.

 

[The Original Fade]

Another clueless quote. This was his list PRE Elite 11 which also includes WVU and UCF. POST Elite 11 includes what you won’t see. He had another 10+ offers from the likes of UGA, UF, Penn St, Miami, Notre Dame, UCLA and several others I can’t remember off the top of my head. He CHOSE for those offers to remain confidential because he’d already committed to UT. When he put out the tweet that he was “shutting down” his recruitment? He did that because UGA was blowing him up. View attachment 316117

And yet he still remained a 3*......interesting

 

[DustyRockSolid]

Our qbs aren't getting reps. They waste all the reps on JG and wonder why none of the other guys have pushed him or improved.

 

[LittleVol]

Its not like this current offensive playbook is working or is even being run efficiently. Chaney and offensive staff need to adapt to personnel at QB to make them successful. Plenty of coaches do this but we can't seem to figure it out.

Chaney has adapted the playbook to JG...

And it's NOT winning formula, because JG can't make a defense respect the passing game. He can't make a defense respect him as the extra man to run.

 

[BigBadVol]

And yet he still remained a 3*......interesting

You got called out for posting nonsense but nice deflection.