Hart must read this

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Crookruss said:
Someone in the UT AD told Jimbo he had declined. This was all before Jimbo publicly declined.
Edit: He meaning Gruden.
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These Gruden to UT rumors have gone on for so long and not a word publicly from Gruden or Hart. Either Gruden is going to be the new coach or UT has the worst public relations department in the history of mankind.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
These Gruden to UT rumors have gone on for so long and not a word publicly from Gruden or Hart. Either Gruden is going to be the new coach or UT has the worst public relations department in the history of mankind.
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I'm just telling you what our AD is telling current coaching targets. He could be playing hardball or purposely deceptive. But I've been taking major grief as a UT fan from this family member.
 
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Crookruss said:
As per the same source. Kirby Smart has had no contact since the beginning of the season. He doesn't seem to be an option any longer. They would have to miss on a lot of targets.
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Starting to worry they are going to miss on a lot of targets. Hopefully, I've just be conditioned to expect the worst after the last few years and the hiring search is actually going really well
 
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Crookruss said:
Tried to give some info in the Gruden thread yesterday that was poorly received. Heard from a family member of someone in the coaching industry that says Gruden has declined and Jimbo Fisher declined a huge offer Saturday evening.
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You should know that anything positive about Dooley or negative concerning Gruden will be poorly received in any forum on this board
 
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CountVolcula said:
Same things were said about Fulmer

When you have to win in the SEC, you have to look over some of the "talent" in Tennessee. Its sub-par compared to other states

It is what it is

Sorry some get their feelings hurt over it
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Maybe in the years of Fulmer but this class and next years have a lot of good high profile players in the state of Tennessee.
 
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TucsonVol said:
Jimmy Hyams reports this morning the talks with Gruden have broken off. They could not reach agreement. The A list includes, Mike Gundy, Bob Stoops, Al Golden, Jim Mora Jr, and Charlie Strong.
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I think Gruden will take an NFL team. Stoops has already said no. Grundy would be a fool to leave Oklahoma State for Tennessee. As far as Al Golden, if you can not succeed at a Florida school; how could you expect success at Tennessee where recruiting is much tougher.
 
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obxvol said:
What a shame. I expected to learn over the coming weeks, following the firing of Dooley, of the damage he caused our program. But the continued comments from recruits and high school coaches is sobering. Tennessee is not even on the minds of many of the top recruits. Unreal. Thanks Derrick. Nice job.
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I still blame Hamilton!
 
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Man, you'd think Gruden can walk on water ! He ain't gonna be walkin' down the Tennessee River towards Neyland Stadium. :rofl: :dunno:
 
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It's true. We run the 98 Championship into the ground. Yes it was awesome but I'm 26 and I barely remember that game. People still talk about it daily.
 
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A couple of points.

1. If current committed recruits are being told that a coach will be in place within 7-10 days then that tells me that Hart has made a decision already and why we are seeing some of the coaches names bowing out.

2. For those that think because Gruden only has a winning % of 54% in the NFL will not translate to college here are a couple of examples.

Nick Saban 15-17 in 2 seasons in the NFL but in college he is 157-55-1.
Steve Spurrier 12-20 in 2 seasons in the NFL but in college he is 207-77-2.

I think Gruden's 54% winning in the NFL would translate quite nicely!

:loco:

tennesseeduke
 
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JeffHostetler said:
It's true. We run the 98 Championship into the ground. Yes it was awesome but I'm 26 and I barely remember that game. People still talk about it daily.
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Im 27 and I agree. I remember it but it was 14 years ago. The kids UT is recruiting were 3 and 4 at the time. Most dont care, especially when they see Bama, FL, UGA, and USCeast spanking UTs ass every year now.
 
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JeffHostetler said:
It's true. We run the 98 Championship into the ground. Yes it was awesome but I'm 26 and I barely remember that game. People still talk about it daily.
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That's because that was when the team played with a fierceness and passion under the leadership of a then aggressive coaching staff. The team also played a "huge" part by getting out there driving each other and playing hard on the field. And yes I'm one of those who still talk about that game because I saw how hard those young men played because I saw the coaches in their faces. I know of one of those players personally from the day he was born, and even when he was home, his focus was on being sure his team mates did their jobs. I watched him on the sidelines, and he was shouting and yelling hard to push his team. When someone messed up, he was right there too. Because of that "team effort", I saw them roll through the SEC like a Mack truck. 97 and 98 were two years of pride because of the way the "team" performed. If you don't have coaches driving their players what are they going to do? Since '98 have we won another NC? No! Have we won a series of SEC championships? No! Have we beaten SEC opponents in such a way as to rank? No. I applaud your youthfulness but for folks like me, I remember that year with pride. I do so for a lot more than just the actual field of play but the passion, power, and drive those guys had. We have the potential to be that again with the right coaching staff. Just my opinion. Still proud of our guys, but they need help! Coaching help!
 
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asoldierswife said:
That's because that was when the team played with a fierceness and passion under the leadership of a then aggressive coaching staff. The team also played a "huge" part by getting out there driving each other and playing hard on the field. And yes I'm one of those who still talk about that game because I saw how hard those young men played because I saw the coaches in their faces. I know of one of those players personally from the day he was born, and even when he was home, his focus was on being sure his team mates did their jobs. I watched him on the sidelines, and he was shouting and yelling hard to push his team. When someone messed up, he was right there too. Because of that "team effort", I saw them roll through the SEC like a Mack truck. 97 and 98 were two years of pride because of the way the "team" performed. If you don't have coaches driving their players what are they going to do? Since '98 have we won another NC? No! Have we won a series of SEC championships? No! Have we beaten SEC opponents in such a way as to rank? No. I applaud your youthfulness but for folks like me, I remember that year with pride. I do so for a lot more than just the actual field of play but the passion, power, and drive those guys had. We have the potential to be that again with the right coaching staff. Just my opinion. Still proud of our guys, but they need help! Coaching help!
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I think you missed my point. I think that team was awesome. We had really good players.. It was probably one of the best teams of all time in the ncaa BUT that means nothing to a 18 year old from Georgia or Florida. You could say the same for 2000 (I think) or so Miami teams, they were the most talented team of all time. BUT a kid from Texas really doesn't care, he thinks its cool Ray Lewis and Clinton Portis went there but it doesn't change the fact they weren't very good this year in a weak ACC. We should promote the future. We should promote to a WR that we almost had 2 1000 yard recievers and 2 WR that will be drafted this year. Not that Joey Kent and Marcus Nash played here and they were good.
 
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JeffHostetler said:
I think you missed my point. I think that team was awesome. We had really good players.. It was probably one of the best teams of all time in the ncaa BUT that means nothing to a 18 year old from Georgia or Florida. You could say the same for 2000 (I think) or so Miami teams, they were the most talented team of all time. BUT a kid from Texas really doesn't care, he thinks its cool Ray Lewis and Clinton Portis went there but it doesn't change the fact they weren't very good this year in a weak ACC. We should promote the future. We should promote to a WR that we almost had 2 1000 yard recievers and 2 WR that will be drafted this year. Not that Joey Kent and Marcus Nash played here and they were good.
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I absolutely agree with you. Good points. Truthfully, I think this entire coaching debacle has got me "fired up" because I so very much want to see the program return to the prominence I believe it so richly deserves, but we can't do that if we don't have a coaching staff in place who's willing to go out there with a passion and fight to recruit quality players... fight to get this program back at the forefront of domination.... basically it's an equation... strong quality determined healthy players + aggressive and passionate coaching = games won. :rock:
 
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Thank you for posting this article. Too many people want to believe that orange jerseys (no black anywhere please), power T's, checkerboard endzones, Rocky Top and our other "traditions" mean something to today's kid. These kids want sex appeal, relevance, Sportcenter highlights and swagger. Right now we offer none of that.

Quite frankly, we are at the point that if we don't get one of four people for our head coach we might as well take a year off and save our money. Gruden, Petrino, Stoops or Fisher. No one else is going to bring instant relevance and swagger.

I have serious nightmares about Hart announcing the hiring of Al Golden.
 
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I like Gruden...really...BUT here's the head coaching record:
Raiders: 38-26, 2-2- in NFL playoffs.
Bucaneers: 57-55, 3-2 in playoffs. Super Bowl championship in his first year after Tony Dungey was fired from the job.
Total: 95 wins, 81 losses (.540 winning pctg.)
How does this translate to guaranteed success as coach of the Tennessee Volunteers?
just askin'
 
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After reading this article, any feelings of sadness for Dooley and his family have all but disappeared. It doesn't sound like he or his staff were giving their "All for Tennessee" on a daily basis.

He just walked away with 5 million dollars and basically destroyed a working relationship with every high school coach in Tennessee and I'm supposed to feel sorry for him? Sorry if it seems that I lack compassion, but I don't think it applies here.
 
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Good grief. That is a bad article. Shame on Derek Dooley. This is embarrassing!


Come on Hart......make it happen!
 
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feathersax said:
I like Gruden...really...BUT here's the head coaching record:
Raiders: 38-26, 2-2- in NFL playoffs.
Bucaneers: 57-55, 3-2 in playoffs. Super Bowl championship in his first year after Tony Dungey was fired from the job.
Total: 95 wins, 81 losses (.540 winning pctg.)
How does this translate to guaranteed success as coach of the Tennessee Volunteers?
just askin'
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I don't think it's the wins/losses for Jon gruden that make him appealing. What makes him so valued is what he has in ties to coaches, NFL owners, and NFL players. Not to mention people consider him a great mind of the game. Winning and losing in the NFL is alot different than in college, I mean imagine being a kid in high school with tons of talent and you have Al golden or jg? Who knows more on how to get you ready for the pros and who has been there. Tons of kids know Jon gruden and not Tennessee and that is why he is so valued. It's his name that will sell the University.

It's just like calapari at Memphis. Nothing appealing whatsoever in the city, I know I've lived here all my life, but cjc sold himself and brought Memphis back since Larry finch. Now he is gone and pastner can't coach to save his life even with a talented roster.

So its the name GRUDEN. It's appealing and exciting. It would bring recruits in groves and with the right scouting, ones that are talented and work in his system. If Jon gruden is the coach it will change things immediately strictly on the name.

Go vols
 
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I want Gruden because he will be up at 4am watching film of UT rivalry games from the last 20 years
I want Gruden because he would say 110% effort would be considered "not trying hard enough"
I want Gruden because he would have gotten in Da'Rick's face and told him to get his act together
I want Gruden (in the words of young Phillip Fulmer) 5-stars would come to Rocky Top like Muslims to Mecca
I want Gruden because "He would Give His All for Tennessee"
 
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JeffHostetler said:
It's true. We run the 98 Championship into the ground. Yes it was awesome but I'm 26 and I barely remember that game. People still talk about it daily.
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Hmmmm.... That's interesting because your screen name is Jeff Hostetler and I believe he has not played football since 1998.
 
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feathersax said:
I like Gruden...really...BUT here's the head coaching record:
Raiders: 38-26, 2-2- in NFL playoffs.
Bucaneers: 57-55, 3-2 in playoffs. Super Bowl championship in his first year after Tony Dungey was fired from the job.
Total: 95 wins, 81 losses (.540 winning pctg.)
How does this translate to guaranteed success as coach of the Tennessee Volunteers?
just askin'
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Do your research
 
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