Halzle to Open Up Offense - FINALLY!!!

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volmandu said:
I still don't get the fact that when teams drop 8 in soft coverage, why don't we utilize short passes for decent gains ? we did that a lot during 2022 .. not all large gains were deep balls, a lot were 5-10 yard pass into 40 yard gain ..
may be it is receivers or QB not recognizing those fast .. or may be play caller .. who knows
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Well……

QB1 in 23 had a riffle for arm that lacked touch and the pass would not have been caught and would have been returned for pick 6

QB1 in 24 never got past read 1 or 2 to take checkdown

other than that, can’t think of a reason not to do it
 
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volmandu said:
I still don't get the fact that when teams drop 8 in soft coverage, why don't we utilize short passes for decent gains ? we did that a lot during 2022 .. not all large gains were deep balls, a lot were 5-10 yard pass into 40 yard gain ..
may be it is receivers or QB not recognizing those fast .. or may be play caller .. who knows
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It's the QB, not hard to figure out.
 
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FranklinVFL said:
I truly believe Hooker earned trust in them so got the playbook wide open during his second year. Neither Joe or Nico got to that level of confidence from the coaches, so playbooks were limited to take advantage of what they could do.

With all the reports about Aguilar's ability to throw on the run with accuracy....I am kinda getting excited to potentially see a return to the Hooker type football.
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If they do AND have the high level defense of last year........it will be extremely fun to watch
 
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Skooter said:
RBs were open every game the last 2 years or chip and slip if you have to. Have to have an aware qb though and last 2 wouldn’t be classified as “aware.” Aware QBs don’t run out of bounds to end games.
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I watched a little Duke football this week…. I know, i was board. Star Thomas is going to be good in our offense, especially if we throw him a few each game.
 
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volmandu said:
I still don't get the fact that when teams drop 8 in soft coverage, why don't we utilize short passes for decent gains ? we did that a lot during 2022 .. not all large gains were deep balls, a lot were 5-10 yard pass into 40 yard gain ..
may be it is receivers or QB not recognizing those fast .. or may be play caller .. who knows
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It's a combination of all of that. Tillman/Hyatt>Thornton/Squirrel

Hooker>>>>Nico

Golesh>>>Halzle
 
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Wait….I’ve been assured time, and time,and time again — that Halzle is nothing but a paperweight sitting in a press box, completely neutered.

Where does he get off saying the he is opening up the boss’s offense, and calling the boss’s plays?
 
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Doberman said:
Wait….I’ve been assured time, and time,and time again — that Halzle is nothing but a paperweight sitting in a press box, completely neutered.

Where does he get off saying the he is opening up the boss’s offense, and calling the boss’s plays?
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To be clear the thread title is misleading. He didn't actually say he was going to open up the offense. And also CJH does call the plays and it is his offense.


 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
To be clear the thread title is misleading. He didn't actually say he was going to open up the offense. And also CJH does call the plays and it is his offense.


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Sure he did.


While that's up in the air, it looks like some changes with the game plan and schemes are on the way from offensive coordinator Joey Halzle. The days of draw plays on 3rd-and-long? It appears those are over. Via reporter Ben McKee, Halzle made it clear he's going to open up the playbook and look to make Tennessee more explosive this fall:
 
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Doberman said:
Sure he did.


While that's up in the air, it looks like some changes with the game plan and schemes are on the way from offensive coordinator Joey Halzle. The days of draw plays on 3rd-and-long? It appears those are over. Via reporter Ben McKee, Halzle made it clear he's going to open up the playbook and look to make Tennessee more explosive this fall:
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If he did it wasn't in the quote. I posted the quote. He said we worked on being more explosive with 8 in coverage. And it's probably just a pistol formation.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
If he did it wasn't in the quote. I posted the quote. He said we worked on being more explosive with 8 in coverage. And it's probably just a pistol formation.
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Let me make the important part even more concise.

Halzle made it clear he's going to open up the playbook and look to make Tennessee more explosive this fall:
 
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Dadof2Vols said:
Well……

QB1 in 23 had a riffle for arm that lacked touch and the pass would not have been caught and would have been returned for pick 6

QB1 in 24 never got past read 1 or 2 to take checkdown

other than that, can’t think of a reason not to do it
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23: agreed .. Milton even digressed in his deep ball as a starter .. he could never make good short throws

24: Nico showed some really good short and intermediate passes .. however either he did not read it well most the times or the OC did not trust him for those or WRs never could get open .. not exactly sure which was more dominant factor among three.. The beneficiary of all this was running game.
 
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Volfanstucknga said:
I honestly believe Nico had all the intangibles physically, but mentally was a handicap to our offense. It was very underwhelming last season. As daddy makes demands regarding the oline and receivers, I'm sure Hype was thinking maybe your son could get a little more football IQ.
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He couldn't read the field. He didn't work his progressions, so he would either hurry a pass or take off with it. I was hoping that would have been the next step for him. I still believe if Joey A's performance is better than Nico's performance last year we will have a good season.
 
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Doberman said:
Sure he did.


While that's up in the air, it looks like some changes with the game plan and schemes are on the way from offensive coordinator Joey Halzle. The days of draw plays on 3rd-and-long? It appears those are over. Via reporter Ben McKee, Halzle made it clear he's going to open up the playbook and look to make Tennessee more explosive this fall:
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Sounds like Heupel is opening the playbook up for Joey Halzle. There's a reason it looked like a machine when Golesh was here
 
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Ten_Titans said:
They didn't trust Nico to throw over the middle
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I came to the conclusion about halfway thru last season that Nico just didn't have the ability to run the offense as fast as coaches wanted him to. And I know there were other circumstances with the O line protection and receivers but there were receivers open a lot of times that he didn't see or waited on another to get open and time ran out on him and was sacked.

Heuple didn't go the running game for most of the offense because he like it.
 
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Not to resurrect a dead horse.... but it is important for the QB to be an operator in the offense they want to run. Hooker was ideal in hindsight. I hope they get back to hyperspeed this year. Tinkering with formations and movement are fine but the kind of pressure UT put on Ds with running fast was something teams struggled to defend.

Last year was torment at times with how much they slowed things down. Whether ability or experience, Nico just couldn't run it fast.
 
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