Gun control debate (merged)

[LouderVol]

Saw where they dropped the price on the printed guns since they were deemed nonfunctional. Very sad

I wonder how they determined functionality. If you are trying at all you can get a full mag out of a Plock. Seen some reports of more with better materials and know how.

 

[luthervol]

What is sinful about a gun or ammo, in and of itself? Especially for the poor who arent likely to have a lot of guns.

All you are doing is limiting new legal owners, not affecting your alleged target audience.

I was sort of joking.
and............
I would certainly hope a poor person doesn't have a lot of guns.

 

[LouderVol]

I was sort of joking.
and............
I would certainly hope a poor person doesn't have a lot of guns.

Sadly the poor rarely seem to have their priorities straight. How often do you see an $80,000 vehicle parked outside a single wide?

 

[utvolpj]

I wonder how they determined functionality. If you are trying at all you can get a full mag out of a Plock. Seen some reports of more with better materials and know how.

Probably because it's just a small part. Based on the filament used it could be absolutely cheap and useless. That's the kind I would make

 

[LouderVol]

Probably because it's just a small part. Based on the filament used it could be absolutely cheap and useless. That's the kind I would make

And if I were you selling to the government I would have them prove they arent functional before I accepted a lower price.

You can point out the weapon that killed Abe if they are hesitant.

 

[85SugarVol]

Because the current gun laws make it ridiculously easy to buy guns in one state and sell them in another.
Just give me your ball park extimate.
What percentage of guns in circulation today were initially purchased legally?
What percentage of guns in Chicago today were initially purchased legally?

In circulation? All of them (or close to it I would imagine).

 

[sonofUT62]

Know what happens when you pay Firemen by the fire?

You get a lot more fires..

Same principle….

 

[luthervol]

In circulation? All of them (or close to it I would imagine).

I would agree and would assume so would most everyone else.
One of the major issues seems obvious to me....what steps can be taken to keep guns purchased legally from ending up in the hands of someone who cannot legally possess it.

 

[sonofUT62]

Sadly the poor rarely seem to have their priorities straight. How often do you see an $80,000 vehicle parked outside a single wide?

Johnson County TN. Inherited the single wide from Papaw and the draw pays for the F-250.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

Johnson County TN. Inherited the single wide from Papaw and the draw pays for the F-250.

When my mom taught she asked the kids in her class what they wanted to do when they grew up. One kid said he wanted to draw. A couple others did too. She got excited thinking she had little Picassos on her hands until she figured out they wanted to "draw" like their parents did.

 

[LouderVol]

I would agree and would assume so would most everyone else.
One of the major issues seems obvious to me....what steps can be taken to keep guns purchased legally from ending up in the hands of someone who cannot legally possess it.

Nothing you have proposed even comes close to targetting the illegal sale. All you are doing is making the legal sale more difficult and expensive. That does nothing to limit illegal sales.

If anything it encourages it. Cut down on the legal supply of guns, and the value of illegal guns goes up. Meaning more criminals will get involved on the illegal sale as they can now make more money than before due to supply issues.

And with the added tax you will push people who would otherwise buy legally to buy illegally to avoid the tax.

You rational and reasonable just encourage illegal behavior and does nothing to punish or limit it.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Poll taxes were considered unconstitutional, why wouldnt a gun tax?

You are proposing a system of gun rights, only for those who can afford the extra tax. Considering you balk at ID laws for voting that costs 32 bucks for an ID value for 8 years, seems like you wouldnt want an ID for guns. At least if you were consistent. But you arent. On top of that racist requirement for ID, you want to add on additional taxes. Ensuring that only the wealthy have guns, and ammo.

Luther is not really much of an egalitarian is he?

 

[GroverCleveland]

I would agree and would assume so would most everyone else.
One of the major issues seems obvious to me....what steps can be taken to keep guns purchased legally from ending up in the hands of someone who cannot legally possess it.

Create a law against it? Oh, wait...

 

[85SugarVol]

I would agree and would assume so would most everyone else.
One of the major issues seems obvious to me....what steps can be taken to keep guns purchased legally from ending up in the hands of someone who cannot legally possess it.

What can we do to prevent people from breaking the law? What do you suggest?

 

[LouderVol]

What can we do to prevent people from breaking the law? What do you suggest?

Luther believes by making the law more complicated, harder to follow, and more expensive we will have fewer criminals.

 

[sonofUT62]

Luther is not really much of an egalitarian is he?

Or a constitutional scholar.

 

[sonofUT62]

Luther believes by making the law more complicated, harder to follow, and more expensive we will have fewer criminals.

It’s worked so well with the tax codes.

 

[luthervol]

What can we do to prevent people from breaking the law? What do you suggest?

The illegal sell of guns?
A national gun registry.
The person to whom the gun is registered is charged with any crime committed with the gun.
Limited number of purchases allowed.
Audits of anyone with more than ten guns registered in their name.

 

[VOLS INC.]

The illegal sell of guns?
A national gun registry.
The person to whom the gun is registered is charged with any crime committed with the gun.
Limited number of purchases allowed.
Audits of anyone with more than ten guns registered in their name.

 

[C-south]

The illegal sell of guns?
A national gun registry.
The person to whom the gun is registered is charged with any crime committed with the gun.
Limited number of purchases allowed.
Audits of anyone with more than ten guns registered in their name.

Gtfo

 

[LouderVol]

The illegal sell of guns?
A national gun registry.
The person to whom the gun is registered is charged with any crime committed with the gun.
Limited number of purchases allowed.
Audits of anyone with more than ten guns registered in their name.

A national voters registry.
The people who vote for the winning politician are held responsible for the crimes and actions of their politician.
Limited number of votes.
Audits of anyone who has voted more than 10 times.

 

[C-south]

A national voters registry.
The people who vote for the winning politician are held responsible for the crimes and actions of their politician.
Limited number of votes.
Audits of anyone who has voted more than 10 times.

Somebody steals his car and kills 4 people in a crash. That’s Luther’s responsibility.

 

[luthervol]

A national voters registry.
The people who vote for the winning politician are held responsible for the crimes and actions of their politician.
Limited number of votes.
Audits of anyone who has voted more than 10 times.

Deal

 

[luthervol]

Somebody steals his car and kills 4 people in a crash. That’s Luther’s responsibility.

Somebody steals my car and I will immediately file a police report. Seems like the thing to do.

 

[LouderVol]

Deal

Curious as to how you see the audits working. What is the intent behind them? How would they be different than a 4473?