Gun control debate (merged)

[C-south]

Ok that's one to 3,956,422

Worth it.

 

[C-south]

Like teachers or kids carrying guns? GTFO. Last thing we need is guns loose in elementary schools.

Typical idiotic hyperbole from the looney left.

 

[volfanhill]

Ok that's one to 3,956,422

How many of the other ones are people allowed to carry?

 

[LouderVol]

Ok that's one to 3,956,422

So your argument here is that it would have been better/ok/preffered if the citizen wasnt armed?

Like I keep saying you want more criminals and more victims, not safety.

 

[lawgator1]

So your argument here is that it would have been better/ok/preffered if the citizen wasnt armed?

Like I keep saying you want more criminals and more victims, not safety.

That's a terrible argument. It's not THIS case, and THIS case only that's the problem. And it's not ideal to have people shooting at each other at the mall.

 

[hog88]

That's a terrible argument. It's not THIS case, and THIS case only that's the problem. And it's not ideal to have people shooting at each other at the mall.

Fix the people problem.

 

[lawgator1]

Fix the people problem.

By reducing guns. Dramatically.

 

[Orangeslice13]

By reducing guns. Dramatically.

No, he said fix the people problem

 

[Orangeslice13]

We’re going to fix the people problem by making a better remote control for your TV.
that makes as much sense as the gun grabbing argument

 

[lawgator1]

No, he said fix the people problem

Kill people?

No. Take guns away.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Kill people?

No. Take guns away.

Guns don’t “kill people” anymore than hammers, cars, knives or any other tool. Till you fix the mental health crisis then nothing is going to change.
It’s sheer stupidity at this point to see the absolute failure gun control is everywhere it’s tried and think “we just need more gun control “

 

[utvolpj]

Like teachers or kids carrying guns? GTFO. Last thing we need is guns loose in elementary schools.

They're already there. In Florida

As a parent with kids that age I'm fine with it. I'll trust their principal over officer Scot Peterson or the entire Uvalde dept every day

 

[LouderVol]

That's a terrible argument. It's not THIS case, and THIS case only that's the problem. And it's not ideal to have people shooting at each other at the mall.

So you do want to make sure the civilians are unarmed.

Any War on Guns would go just the same as the War on Drugs and the War on Poverty. Make the root issues worse, and not helping the average citizen, while empowering the bad guys.

 

[allvol123]

Have to understand that LG is furious about this. If not for this guy, you get a headline today discussing 15, 30, or 45 plus deaths from a deranged shooter. Instead we got a headline about an armed civilian preventing such. I’d say he is fuming.

 

[LouderVol]

They're already there. In Florida

As a parent with kids that age I'm fine with it. I'll trust their principal over officer Scot Peterson or the entire Uvalde dept every day

And remember federal courts have already upheld that the cops have no obligation to protect the citizens. And that's stemming from a school shooting case in Florida.

 

[hndog609]

And remember federal courts have already upheld that the cops have no obligation to protect the citizens. And that's stemming from a school shooting case in Florida.

It certainly wasn't LEO that put a stop to this guy's shenanigans.

Witness shoots and kills St. Charles QuikTrip robbery suspect | FOX 2

 

[lawgator1]

Guns don’t “kill people” anymore than hammers, cars, knives or any other tool. Till you fix the mental health crisis then nothing is going to change.
It’s sheer stupidity at this point to see the absolute failure gun control is everywhere it’s tried and think “we just need more gun control “

We have shown an inability or unwillingness to address mental health.

Therefore, take the guns.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Ok that's one to 3,956,422

Wrong again. As usual

 

[Rickyvol77]

Like teachers or kids carrying guns? GTFO. Last thing we need is guns loose in elementary schools.

There are already guns in elementary schools

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

We have shown an inability or unwillingness to address mental health.

Therefore, take the guns.

This.

Thats great an armed citizen took this shooter out after he "only" killed 3 people, but the root issue is someone came to the mall looking to kill people. And was probably legally armed. Until this root issue is resolved, "more guns" is just a band-aid.

 

[utvolpj]

And was probably legally armed.

Very few actually meet this

 

[0nelilreb]

We have shown an inability or unwillingness to address mental health.

Therefore, take the guns.

… And ignore the alcohol , voting , sugar , smokes , chemicals , free will … you guys are so unoriginal .

 

[0nelilreb]

This.

Thats great an armed citizen took this shooter out after he "only" killed 3 people, but the root issue is someone came to the mall looking to kill people. And was probably legally armed. Until this root issue is resolved, "more guns" is just a band-aid.

FYI - “ gun “ deaths start at number 16 . You take that away and “ gun “ deaths drop down to around the motor vehicle death range .

 

[hog88]

Kill people?

No. Take guns away.

Fix the drinking and driving problem by taking away cars...

 

[hog88]

This.

Thats great an armed citizen took this shooter out after he "only" killed 3 people, but the root issue is someone came to the mall looking to kill people. And was probably legally armed. Until this root issue is resolved, "more guns" is just a band-aid.

The bold is the root issue, taking guns away won't fix the root cause.