Gun control debate (merged)

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Orangeslice13 said:
Are you serious with that?
The only difference is the furniture. I could make the mini 14 ranch look just like the gun below it in less that 5 minutes. They’re literally the same firearm.
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First let's all take a moment to make fun of "assault rifle version." (long pause for laughter)

Next let's try to remember LG is an idiot on the topic. (Sorry LG, don't take it too hard, I'd be useless in a conversation about M Theory) So let's not beat him up too much and explain practical vs functional differences.

LG (or whomever needs to be paying attention here) you neither need to know or care about the differences between direct impingement vs gas piston yada yada firearm gack. What you and yours need to grasp is that ALL of the rifles (outside of, you know, actual assault rifles) work on the idea of one round per trigger manipulation being fed from a removable box magazine by cycling of the bolt via the gasses or recoil of a fired round. Such rifles have been available to the American public for nearly 120 years now. That's the functional part. Whether civilian from the outset or "civilianized" versions of military designs makes not one jot of difference.

The practical difference is like the design with anything. We'll stick to the AR platform since that's what you mostly find here in the US. That design was made to be modular and extremely flexible, which is just another way of saying it's customizable as hell. Being based on long standing military specs every component is made by all kinds of people and "different" guns from varying manufacturers can have parts replaced or upgraded from numerous companies. Then there's the ability to swap out uppers on the same "lower" which allows you to literally take a short barrel of one caliber and swap it out with a long barrel of a different caliber. This is what makes the AR platform so appealing over others from a practical standpoint.

So to recap;

Every single thing as a matter of function is same.
Individual aspects between firearm platforms can be different and have little to no bearing whatsoever on the function.
 
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hndog609 said:
First let's all take a moment to make fun of "assault rifle version." (long pause for laughter)

Next let's try to remember LG is an idiot on the topic. (Sorry LG, don't take it too hard, I'd be useless in a conversation about M Theory) So let's not beat him up too much and explain practical vs functional differences.

LG (or whomever needs to be paying attention here) you neither need to know or care about the differences between direct impingement vs gas piston yada yada firearm gack. What you and yours need to grasp is that ALL of the rifles (outside of, you know, actual assault rifles) work on the idea of one round per trigger manipulation being fed from a removable box magazine by cycling of the bolt via the gasses or recoil of a fired round. Such rifles have been available to the American public for nearly 120 years now. That's the functional part. Whether civilian from the outset or "civilianized" versions of military designs makes not one jot of difference.

The practical difference is like the design with anything. We'll stick to the AR platform since that's what you mostly find here in the US. That design was made to be modular and extremely flexible, which is just another way of saying it's customizable as hell. Being based on long standing military specs every component is made by all kinds of people and "different" guns from varying manufacturers can have parts replaced or upgraded from numerous companies. Then there's the ability to swap out uppers on the same "lower" which allows you to literally take a short barrel of one caliber and swap it out with a long barrel of a different caliber. This is what makes the AR platform so appealing over others from a practical standpoint.

So to recap;

Every single thing as a matter of function is same.
Individual aspects between firearm platforms can be different and have little to no bearing whatsoever on the function.
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Thanks for your effort but I fear it is wasted. This would only be useful if the lawgator‘s of the world were actually interesting in learning. Ronald Reagan already explained the futility of such efforts
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EricStratton said:
Pay attention. It is already stating here. All bans will be state/local level as that is the only way the BOR allows. This is supported by Scalias Heller opinion.
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If people vote for these state legislatures that limit their rights then I’ve got little sympathy for them. The idiots did it to themselves.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Thanks for your effort but I fear it is wasted. This would only be useful if the lawgator‘s of the world were actually interesting in learning. Ronald Reagan already explained the futility of such efforts
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Reagan banned more guns than any other President yet the NRA set celebrates him. I hope he gets the pineapple on the hour for his anti American legislation. And under cover of night to boot.
 
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EricStratton said:
Reagan banned more guns than any other President yet the NRA set celebrates him. I hope he gets the pineapple on the hour for his anti American legislation. And under cover of night to boot.
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For all his faults, just remember that without him there would have been no conservative resurgence and the American Republican Party would have remained in the hands of the Rockefeller County Club Republicans and it would be as worthless today as the „conservative“ parties of the UK, Canada, and Australia
 
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GroverCleveland said:
Yeah, and as I referenced, many who commit these crimes did not purchase the gun to begin with; someone else did.

I don't know the answer. But would you agree this kid should not have been able to purchase a centerfire semi-auto rifle? Of course does it make a real difference if he used a lever action or .22 magnum?
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A judge can make that determination. Anyone else and it's a breach of his rights.

My point with the gun license is someone still gets it before they go on their shooting spree. So there is not going to be anything to stop them getting the license. It will only punish the good citizens.

Find some way that doesnt impact law abiding citizens and doesnt deny people their rights without due process, it's never just a 2A issue, and we can talk.
 
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