Gun control debate (merged)

[C-south]

^^^^^I keep returning to this thought.^^^^^^
Unfortunately, these debates never accomplish anything more than increasing the disdain between the two sides.

Yet you’re replying to yourself and calling other people nuts.

 

[luthervol]

Perhaps it's time you move on, then.

Undoubtedly

 

[Vol8188]

I'm rolling more with gun nuts are getting nuttier and are being increasingly viewed as a societal pariah.
I'm convinced nothing will be done, things will get worse, and gun nuts will use the worsening conditions as proof that their position was correct all along. (part of their nuttiness)

What exactly will get worse? It seems all crime data has been getting better despite more guns

 

[0nelilreb]

There were two shootings during my 8th grade year on school property, one inside the building. Meigs - 1974
The guy who set in the row next to me in 11th grade LA was shot and killed during a drug deal. (away from school)

I carried guns to school , almost all the guys did during hunting season, not one school shooting .. what changed ? The access to firearms has gotten tighter , so it wasn’t guns , what changed ? Let’s start there .

 

[hUTch2002]

You do understand that the rate of fire comes from the individual if the weapon is not full auto , right ?

I’m going with a no.

 

[hUTch2002]

So your example of why we need ARs is 250 years old?

When you are saying AR are you saying Assault Rifle or do you mean AR-15?

 

[luthervol]

I'm curious how many of you gun lovers grew up in a rural environment.
Where any of you raised in an urban environment?

 

[0nelilreb]

I'm curious how many of you gun lovers grew up in a rural environment.
Where any of you raised in an urban environment?

Rural until I got my foundational teachings before I dared trying to make it in a city .

 

[McDad]

I'm curious how many of you gun lovers grew up in a rural environment.
Where any of you raised in an urban environment?

 

[Vol8188]

I'm curious how many of you gun lovers grew up in a rural environment.
Where any of you raised in an urban environment?

I’m curious why it matters

 

[Carl Pickens]

Fire arms, not bombs. I have heard many lefties say the exact same mindless garble over many years. It's as predictable as the sunset.

Luther thinks spitwads should be outlawed

 

[Carl Pickens]

Have you ever hunted wild hogs? Coyotes?

His type runs with the PETA crowd and think wild hogs and coyotes are cute and cuddly

 

[MG1968]

We've had a people problem since the proverbial Adam and Eve and we will always have a people problem.
We should always work at understanding and addressing those people problems, and we should also continue to lessen the harmful effects of people problems.....that's were the gun issue comes in.

Or we could just start profiling once again.

 

[Dirty Vol]

I'm curious how many of you gun lovers grew up in a rural environment.
Where any of you raised in an urban environment?

I lived in both. Lived in urban until 5th grade. Lived in rural until high school graduation. Currently my wife and I live in urban and we are looking to get back to rural.

 

[Carl Pickens]

While listening to the progressive radio shows today, their definition of the second amendment was for only the military and/or LEO's to own firearms. During multiple segments of their shows, the EO issue was brought up, with the talk about banning AR15's by EO and semi-automatic handguns. Their remarks regarding AR15 ownership were extreme, especially against a so-called tyrannical government, because one man with an AR15 or several thousand men with AR's, can not stop a government that has nuclear capabilities. We'll just nuke you. Verbatim.

Sounds like typical liberal poons that think earplugs are bullets

 

[luthervol]

I’m curious why it matters

The reluctance of so many is telling.
I would guess that people raised in a rural environment view guns differently.
That's completely understandable.

 

[OrangeTsar]

I'm curious how many of you gun lovers grew up in a rural environment.
Where any of you raised in an urban environment?

I do not necessarily answer to the term „gun lover“. Any rather „freedom lover“. The gun is just tje tool of freedom Just as a spear, a gladis, a broadsword, cutlas, a flintlock, or a musket would have been in another age.
But to answer your question, yes most assuredly rural by the Grace of God, and proud of it

 

[OrangeTsar]

While listening to the progressive radio shows today, their definition of the second amendment was for only the military and/or LEO's to own firearms. During multiple segments of their shows, the EO issue was brought up, with the talk about banning AR15's by EO and semi-automatic handguns. Their remarks regarding AR15 ownership were extreme, especially against a so-called tyrannical government, because one man with an AR15 or several thousand men with AR's, can not stop a government that has nuclear capabilities. We'll just nuke you. Verbatim.

The Soviet/Russian experience with the Afghans nd the Ukrainians as well as our own tussles with the Vietnamese and those same Afghans show it to not be quite such a simple equation

 

[luthervol]

I do not necessarily answer to the term „gun lover“. Any rather „freedom lover“. The gun is just tje tool of freedom Just as a spear, a gladis, a broadsword, cutlas, a flintlock, or a musket would have been in another age.
But to answer your question, yes most assuredly rural by the Grace of God, and proud of it

Thanks for the reply. Your answer makes sense. I'll use "weapons lover" if that is better.

 

[sonofUT62]

I'm rolling more with gun nuts are getting nuttier and are being increasingly viewed as a societal pariah.
I'm convinced nothing will be done, things will get worse, and gun nuts will use the worsening conditions as proof that their position was correct all along. (part of their nuttiness)

In a world where churches were vandalized, someone threatened to burn the Eucharist and people showed up at SCOTUS members private homes……you think 2A supporters are becoming societal pariahs??? You’re delusional.

 

[Dirty Vol]

So your example of why we need ARs is 250 years old?

For lots of tyranny.

 

[luthervol]

In a world where churches were vandalized, someone threatened to burn the Eucharist and people showed up at SCOTUS members private homes……you think 2A supporters are becoming societal pariahs??? You’re delusional.

I do. They may not be the only group, but they are certainly one of them.

 

[Vol Main]

Thanks for the emotional approach to taking my firearm away because I don’t need it . Let’s hope we all don’t feel the same about your right to vote while we are suffering through food shortages and historic inflation.

Nowhere did I advocate taking your firearm away. I stated the opposite, "But I do not think that possession of the rifles themselves should become a crime. We need to stop people who want to commit mass murder from walking out of a gun store with one of those guns, and the only way to do that is to ban their manufacture and sale. That is what I support doing." I think that current owners should have the right to keep them.

 

[Carl Pickens]

The reluctance of so many is telling.
I would guess that people raised in a rural environment view guns differently.
That's completely understandable.

Those that grow up around guns view them differently and typically have a greater appreciation of them …..as well as a healthy respect. It’s very rare to see this type of person being or acting irresponsible when handling them.

 

[Carl Pickens]

I do. They may not be the only group, but they are certainly one of them.

Don’t you have some tranny LGBTQ rally to go cry and pee at?