Gun control debate (merged)

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LouderVol said:
Georgia Gov. Kemp signs bill easing gun laws

Georgia is Constitutional Carry effective immediately. Quote of the day: “Yes, I believe in the Second Amendment,” said Sen. Donzella James, an Atlanta Democrat. “But why are we spreading the access to guns to everyone?"

Yeah I believe it's a right, but no, not everyone should have it.
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Permitless carry = spreading access to guns to everyone???

Interesting logic.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Not everything is a huge conspiracy theory. It’s not hard to escape a chaotic crime scene at least for a few hours
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Yeah, no. This guy should have been tripping all sorts of red flags from NYPD on up to the Federal level...

If one of the 22 intelligence agencies wasn't eyeballing this guy, they are truly broken.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Yeah, no. This guy should have been tripping all sorts of red flags from NYPD on up to the Federal level...

If one of the 22 intelligence agencies wasn't eyeballing this guy, they are truly broken.
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There are literally tens of thousands or more of these type guys walking around. There’s probably 5k in Tennessee alone. You can’t keep eyes on them all especially as they meander thru hospitals, psych facilities, and homeless populations
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
There are literally tens of thousands or more of these type guys walking around. There’s probably 5k in Tennessee alone. You can’t keep eyes on them all especially as they meander thru hospitals, psych facilities, and homeless populations
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BS.

If they can track a bunch of flannel wearing, backwoods bumpkins in Michigan running their mouth about "abducting" the Governor and turn it into a major case, there damn sure should have been someone in the, again, 22 agencies that track threats or the NYPD or NY State Police or the local Sheriff Office that should have been keeping tabs on this guy.

Or tracking Randy Weaver for selling a rifle an inch too short.

Dying give me this "there are too many crazy people" nonsense. These idiots are wasting too much time watching parents at school board meetings rather than people that truly are threatening.
 
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Grand Vol said:
BS.

If they can track a bunch of flannel wearing, backwoods bumpkins in Michigan running their mouth about "abducting" the Governor and turn it into a major case, there damn sure should have been someone in the, again, 22 agencies that track threats or the NYPD or NY State Police or the local Sheriff Office that should have been keeping tabs on this guy.

Or tracking Randy Weaver for selling a rifle an inch too short.

Dying give me this "there are too many crazy people" nonsense. These idiots are wasting too much time watching parents at school board meetings rather than people that truly are threatening.
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How exactly do you believe that LE and other agencies “keep track” of people? If a mentally ill homeless guy who made a vague threat in Utah rode a bus to Knoxville TN and stayed on the streets, how would they know that do you think? Randy weaver was incorrectly targeted by two guys who actually dealt with him locally for 10 years and even then they only cared because another informant told them about the rifle BS.
The Michigan morons were “tracked” because they regularly met with and messaged and called the agents.

If you believe that outside of one or two liberal places that any LE is ACTUALLY secretly tracking parents at school board meetings, I don’t know what to tell you.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
How exactly do you believe that LE and other agencies “keep track” of people? If a mentally ill homeless guy who made a vague threat in Utah rode a bus to Knoxville TN and stayed on the streets, how would they know that do you think? Randy weaver was incorrectly targeted by two guys who actually dealt with him locally for 10 years and even then they only cared because another informant told them about the rifle BS.
The Michigan morons were “tracked” because they regularly met with and messaged and called the agents.

If you believe that outside of one or two liberal places that any LE is ACTUALLY secretly tracking parents at school board meetings, I don’t know what to tell you.
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The same damn way they kept track of people while I was still active LEO... law enforcement agencies are littered with intelligence units from the local level on up.

Don't act like you're the only person on here that's worn a badge. That tracking and analysis should have only gotten better since I hung up the belt. Not more politically directed.
 
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Grand Vol said:
The same damn way they kept track of people while I was still active LEO... law enforcement agencies are littered with intelligence units from the local level on up.

Don't act like you're the only person on here that's worn a badge. That tracking and analysis should have only gotten better since I hung up the belt. Not more politically directed.
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Of course there are intelligence units. Mostly used for gangs these days. But again how you propose the large homeless mentally ill population that goes between multiple states be “tracked” unless they happen to be under arrest at that time
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Of course there are intelligence units. Mostly used for gangs these days. But again how you propose the large homeless mentally ill population that goes between multiple states be “tracked” unless they happen to be under arrest at that time
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This guy hadn't been homeless and had been posting numerous rants for while before he packed up and moved to Philadelphia.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Of course there are intelligence units. Mostly used for gangs these days. But again how you propose the large homeless mentally ill population that goes between multiple states be “tracked” unless they happen to be under arrest at that time
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This guy was not homeless, so, I'm not sure what point you're attempting to make.
 
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I would think it’s hard for a homeless person to hang onto a gun. You’d probably have sold it to try and not be homeless a little longer or to get drug money if that’s your thing. Most of the homeless I interact with or observe carry a knife or something that can be swung like a club, if they’re armed at all.
 
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hog88 said:
This guy hadn't been homeless and had been posting numerous rants for while before he packed up and moved to Philadelphia.
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He lived in 9 states in the last decade so he is definitely transient. And Rasputin has posted numerous rants for a while here, do you believe the feds are watching him
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
He lived in 9 states in the last decade so he is definitely transient. And Rasputin has posted numerous rants for a while here, do you believe the feds are watching him
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Volnation got mentioned in a Breitbart article. I guarentee you the left leaning FBI has at least some idea of this board.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
He lived in 9 states in the last decade so he is definitely transient. And Rasputin has posted numerous rants for a while here, do you believe the feds are watching him
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Transient isn't homeless and I do believe that he was on the FBI watch list.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I would think it’s hard for a homeless person to hang onto a gun. You’d probably have sold it to try and not be homeless a little longer or to get drug money if that’s your thing. Most of the homeless I interact with or observe carry a knife or something that can be swung like a club, if they’re armed at all.
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Nor do most homeless people have Youtube accounts...
 
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