Gun control debate (merged)

[hndog609]

I posted a graph on the rate of homicide a couple of pages back that shows the rate of homicide has been fairly constant over the last 100+ years but yes noted in the current timeframe the rate of homicide due to gun violence has been in decline. It was in decline before NAWB1994 and remained in decline after it expired.

The homicide rate in the US has been fairly constant and has no correlation to some arbitrary claim of a blow up in guns in circulation. That is cherry picked shiite.

We simply appear to be a fairly angry and violent people. Maybe we should post signs at airport points of entry

I was merely trying to shine an even brighter light on the inverse relationship over the past few decades between higher firearm purchases and carry rights vs murder rates. It's actually quite glaring. Going back to that carry permit mapping note at the height of the murder rate we had 12 no issue and 17 may issue states to go along with 1 unrestricted state. A whole hell of lot lower murder rate later in 2019 we're down to zero no issue and only 8 may issue states to go along with 16 unrestricted states. (Actually this last bit has changed since I know at least Idaho is now unrestricted)

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

 

[LouderVol]

You’d die.

Like most violent situations I would probably find myself in.

Doesnt mean I wouldnt go down swinging or should just accept whatever eventuality they want to impose.

 

[NorthDallas40]

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Yes but the statists will reply that the government must dictate your well balanced breakfast makeup to you. It’s for your own good after all.

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

Yes but the statists will reply that the government must dictate your well balanced breakfast makeup to you. It’s for your own good after all.

We need some common sense bacon regulation.

 

[NorthDallas40]

We need some common sense bacon regulation.

The funny thing is we’ve actually had an example of this from the AHA AMA and the whole bull **** cholesterol levels and diet management over the years. I’ve called it all crap to my PCP and he even admitted it.

And I’m sure there are more

 

[Carl Pickens]

That's 100% false.

200%

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

The funny thing is we’ve actually had an example of this from the AHA AMA and the whole bull **** cholesterol levels and diet management over the years. I’ve called it all crap to my PCP and he even admitted it.

And I’m sure there are more

How about that food pyramid? That was a great success.

 

[NorthDallas40]

How about that food pyramid? That was a great success.

I’ve lost 60 lbs over the last year. I eat all the fat and meat I want and have had to eradicate most grains pastas and bread from my diet to keep it off. And I most all of my allergy symptoms have cleared up which my PCP admitted could likely be tied to our GMO grains. What bread I do eat is simple non GMO sour dough.

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

I’ve lost 60 lbs over the last year. I eat all the fat and meat I want and have had to eradicate most grains pastas and bread from my diet to keep it off. And I most all of my allergy symptoms have cleared up which my PCP admitted could likely be tied to our GMO grains. What bread I do eat is simple non GMO sour dough.

I watched a documentary a few days ago on this subject, and it was eye opening. The government pushed a high carb/sugar diet as being healthy. One more reason not to trust any government recommendations.

Congrats on the weight loss. I'm gonna try a similar diet (low carbs/high). Have you noticed a difference in your energy level with fewer carbs?

 

[Rickyvol77]

No you specifically, but yes, I have plenty of evidence gun ownership is a problem.

Gun ownership isn’t the problem. Criminals are the problem

 

[Rickyvol77]

You voting or not doesn’t directly send people to my operating room on a consistent basis.

Me owning firearms doesn’t send people to “your” operating room either

 

[Rickyvol77]

You obviously aren’t interested in rationality, you hide behind what someone else wrote 250 years ago.

Lol emotional baby. I side with the Founding Fathers

 

[NorthDallas40]

I watched a documentary a few days ago on this subject, and it was eye opening. The government pushed a high carb/sugar diet as being healthy. One more reason not to trust any government recommendations.

Congrats on the weight loss. I'm gonna try a similar diet (low carbs/high). Have you noticed a difference in your energy level with fewer carbs?

My energy level is fine. I try to do light cycling, walking, bowflex 3 to 5 days a week for a half hour to hour at a time. I walk all that I can around and at work. I used the keto diet during weight loss. Less than 50 gr net carbs a day. Huge amounts of glorious fat and protein. Now that I’m in maintenance is smart carbs. Around 100 to 125 gr a day of carbs but all fresh fruit and vegetables. Bread and pasta is a treat now. But I eat all the ham, beef, fish, whatever meat I want and I don’t trim any fat. It’s glorious and I feel great!

What prompted this was I was on blood pressure meds about borderline type II diabetic. Today I’m off all meds all together and my blood pressure and bloodwork is perfect.

 

[bnhunt]

We are only the worst because of the big cities. If you look at the general US our stats arent nearly so bad.

IIRC we go from worst to like 20th if you remove five cities. All cities with big gun restrictions and generally not filled with right leaning gun nuts. But that's where it's the worse.

Racist IMO.

 

[bnhunt]

Nah F em. Pack them in there and let them have their own damn hunger games. I’ll live out in the burbs and eat popcorn while I watch the show.

Definitely racist IMO.

 

[bnhunt]

What is your vision for the USA excluding anything about guns?

Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Norway, United Kingdom, etc.

Two students were killed in a school shooting in Los Angeles on Thursday — here are 5 countries that have taken radical steps to eliminate firearm deaths

 

[bnhunt]

Lol you must be a half-wit. A bad stat that goes unchanged over 100+ years doesn’t make anything but a century-long bad stat.

There's no need for the "must be"; he definitely is.

 

[bnhunt]

Gun ownership isn’t the problem. Criminals are the problem

There it is! The age old right-wing argument - isn't everyone else's problem not mine ... and as long as those people aren't old and white who really cares.

 

[37L1]

There it is! The age old right-wing argument - isn't everyone else's problem not mine ... and as long as those people aren't old and white who really cares.

There it is, the age old liberal argument when all else is failing, racism!

I love stirring up you righties."

 

[37L1]

There's no need for the "must be"; he definitely is.

This, coming from you, is ironic.

 

[37L1]

Definitely racist IMO.

There you go again, how many times have you called other people racist as your rejoinder? That's your go to response on just about everything.

 

[Rickyvol77]

There it is! The age old right-wing argument - isn't everyone else's problem not mine ... and as long as those people aren't old and white who really cares.

What are you talking about with your race BS again? Your argument is like saying we can’t trust you to post on a message board because someone else spammed a bad post. It makes no sense whatsoever. How is me legally owning firearms doing ANYTHING to harm someone else exactly?

 

[37L1]

What are you talking about with your race BS again? Your argument is like saying we can’t trust you to post on a message board because someone else spammed a bad post. It makes no sense whatsoever. How is me legally owning firearms doing ANYTHING to harm someone else exactly?

It bruised his emotions, you fiend!

 

[bnhunt]

It bruised his emotions, you fiend!

Make sure you go armed today. It's a scary world out there for you I know.