Gun control debate (merged)

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lawgator1 said:
I think most sane people are skeptical of the notion that some office worker with an hour long concealed weapon permit class under his belt and a Glock is going to get into an effective firefight with terrorists armed with assault rifles.

Much more likely that his gun is stolen and used in a crime down the road.
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I'm going down swinging..... Not in the fetal position
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Can they ever?
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I tend to get really tired of the same old arguments that have been proven wrong each...and...every...****ing...time...they...come...up.

It's like facts don't mean **** all to some people these days. Take the BS article that came out yesterday in the Huffpo about Manning. It was alleged he was on HGH, not linked, not ****ing proven, just some dimwit talking out his ass and dropping names because he could.

No proof whatsoever. Just an allegation there.

Yet the mouthbreathers in the FF ran around like their hair was on fire treating it like the Gospel and Jesus Christ himself had risen and given them the news. The mouthbreathers here in the PF continue to come in with the same old arguments that are not based on fact and continue to vomit out the really bad info each and every time.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I tend to get really tired of the same old arguments that have been proven wrong each...and...every...****ing...time...they...come...up.

It's like facts don't mean **** all to some people these days. Take the BS article that came out yesterday in the Huffpo about Manning. It was alleged he was on HGH, not linked, not ****ing proven, just some dimwit talking out his ass and dropping names because he could.

No proof whatsoever. Just an allegation there.

Yet the mouthbreathers in the FF ran around like their hair was on fire treating it like the Gospel and Jesus Christ himself had risen and given them the news. The mouthbreathers here in the PF continue to come in with the same old arguments that are not based on fact and continue to vomit out the really bad info each and every time.
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Tell us how you really feel.
 
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Some people are better "feelers" than "thinkers"... Nearly all of them are Liberal. In their mind, feelings will always trump logic. It's maddening
 
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Grand Vol said:
I tend to get really tired of the same old arguments that have been proven wrong each...and...every...****ing...time...they...come...up.

It's like facts don't mean **** all to some people these days. Take the BS article that came out yesterday in the Huffpo about Manning. It was alleged he was on HGH, not linked, not ****ing proven, just some dimwit talking out his ass and dropping names because he could.

No proof whatsoever. Just an allegation there.

Yet the mouthbreathers in the FF ran around like their hair was on fire treating it like the Gospel and Jesus Christ himself had risen and given them the news. The mouthbreathers here in the PF continue to come in with the same old arguments that are not based on fact and continue to vomit out the really bad info each and every time.
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Yep. I know just how you feel.

Putting the constitution and bill of rights aside for a second, people have an innate right to self defense as human beings. The same way a lion has claws to protect itself, or, a porcupine has quills to protect itself.
You can have all the laws you want, someone intent on killing, will kill, it's impossible to stop. The only hope is the ability of the INDIVIDUAL to protect themselves from an attack.

Also, it gets utterly boring stating and pointing out that these shootings typically happen where people are disarmed. So it was actually the laws fault for disarming the public. Yet, they call for MORE regulations when all the time the evidence is there to prove that the law actually hurts honest people.

It's unreal.
 
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The problem with the argument is that the left says shootings are rampant and we need less guns. When you say you want to carry a firearm they say you're a paranoid gun nut afraid of your own shadow. So which is it? It's safe, or it's a warzone?
 
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lawgator1 said:
It is self evident.

How many people have had their guns stolen and used in crime?

How many have thwarted a mass active shooter?

Compare and contrast.
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That's what he's asking you for. Provide the facts.

Since the majority of these mass shootings happen in "gun free" zones. It's hard to give that answer now isn't?
 
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defendthishouse said:
yep. I know just how you feel.

Putting the constitution and bill of rights aside for a second, people have an innate right to self defense as human beings. The same way a lion has claws to protect itself, or, a porcupine has quills to protect itself.
You can have all the laws you want, someone intent on killing, will kill, it's impossible to stop. The only hope is the ability of the individual to protect themselves from an attack.

Also, it gets utterly boring stating and pointing out that these shootings typically happen where people are disarmed. So it was actually the laws fault for disarming the public. Yet, they call for more regulations when all the time the evidence is there to prove that the law actually hurts honest people.

It's unreal.
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10/10
 
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lawgator1 said:
It is self evident.

How many people have had their guns stolen and used in crime?
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I don't know, how many?

lawgator1 said:
How many have thwarted a mass active shooter?
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How many mass shootings (not the FBI definition BTW) have happened in areas that weren't gun free zones?

It seems to me gun free zones where law abiding gun owners don't (or can't) carry tend to attract mass shooters.

Compare and contrast the target selection for me.
 
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You are both speculating that someone with a handgun in the middle of a crowd can do jack shiite in a terrorist attack. You are insane.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I don't know, how many?



How many mass shootings (not the FBI definition BTW) have happened in areas that weren't gun free zones?

It seems to me gun free zones where law abiding gun owners don't (or can't) carry tend to attract mass shooters.

Compare and contrast the target selection for me.
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I guarantee you if a mass shooting occurred in TN where guns are allowed, there'd be numerous armed citizens present. The numbers are growing every day.
 
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lawgator1 said:
You are both speculating that someone with a handgun in the middle of a crowd can do jack shiite in a terrorist attack. You are insane.
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So...you can't answer the question(s)?

Figured.

You can move along now. Bring along that mouthbreather TN Ribs to call me a fraud again and not dispel any facts either.
 
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