Gun control debate (merged)

[Rickyvol77]

So do you believe armed American citizens could defend themselves against the US military? (Not being snarky, genuinely interested)

They won’t have to. Military and police are overwhelmingly pro2A

 

[0nelilreb]

So do you believe armed American citizens could defend themselves against the US military? (Not being snarky, genuinely interested)

Not to be snarky but, a little country named Afghanistan says not only can you do it but you can do it to the Russian army also .

 

[OHvol40]

They could do some damage to the U.S. military.

I’m sure, just like anyone around the world can... but could they win?

 

[OHvol40]

They won’t have to. Military and police are overwhelmingly pro2A

If you can’t count on that, and the military follows their orders against US citizens... what does that ultimately mean? Because that’s the excuse I hear consistently for keeping citizens armed.

 

[1972 Grad]

I’m sure, just like anyone around the world can... but could they win?

They could probably keep it going for a long time.

 

[OHvol40]

Not to be snarky but, a little country named Afghanistan says not only can you do it but you can do it to the Russian army also .

1. What does Russia spend on defense compared to the US?

2. We invaded Afghanistan 20 years ago, is our plan there victory or maintenance?

3. The 2A diehard argument is that armed citizens could defend themselves against a full onslaught from the US military if it came to that. Do you believe they could?

 

[0nelilreb]

If you can’t count on that, and the military follows their orders against US citizens... what does that ultimately mean? Because that’s the excuse I hear consistently for keeping citizens armed.

It’s not an excuse , it’s actually written down on a parchment somewhere . If we only knew what that was called .

 

[LouderVol]

And, what exactly do they verify?

Not your legal residency thanks to the Democrats. They are fine with foreigners owning guns in our nation but not citizens.

 

[OHvol40]

They could probably keep it going for a long time.

Depends on what you consider a long time. I think 2 years max. No organization, no armor, no air defense... probably pockets of people hiding away in 6 months if the military invaded the citizens. They could blitz most areas and then weed out the rest.

 

[OHvol40]

It’s not an excuse , it’s actually written down on a parchment somewhere . If we only knew what that was called .

Ok, quick, what’s the eighth amendment without google?

 

[Mick]

It’s not an excuse , it’s actually written down on a parchment somewhere . If we only knew what that was called .

It's called lack of foresight.

 

[OHvol40]

Not your legal residency thanks to the Democrats. They are fine with foreigners owning guns in our nation but not citizens.

Ok, so America’s problem is foreigners coming into the country and shooting up everybody?

 

[0nelilreb]

1. What does Russia spend on defense compared to the US?

2. We invaded Afghanistan 20 years ago, is our plan there victory or maintenance?

3. The 2A diehard argument is that armed citizens could defend themselves against a full onslaught from the US military if it came to that. Do you believe they could?

Now your having to qualify your statement . Afghanistan has defeated Russia and made them pull out before they went bankrupt, they have held the greatest armed forces on the planet to a standstill for 20 years . The US armed forces would not turn on its citizens unless the world has gone to sh!t . If they did it wouldn’t be full cooperation of all the forces and the bloodbath of numbers wouldn’t matter at that point .

 

[1972 Grad]

Depends on what you consider a long time. I think 2 years max. No organization, no armor, no air defense... probably pockets of people hiding away in 6 months if the military invaded the citizens. They could blitz most areas and then weed out the rest.

That is why we need rocket launchers, full auto rifles, bazookas, grenades, anti-aircraft guns, tanks, A10 Warthogs, etc.

 

[0nelilreb]

It's called lack of foresight.

That lack of foresight has held strong for how many years and against how many leftist groups with their attorneys?

 

[Mick]

Ok, quick, what’s the eighth amendment without google?

All they know is it's better to have a gun. Shame they have to try to encourage others to also have a gun. They're the dipsh!ts of the 2A.

 

[0nelilreb]

Ok, quick, what’s the eighth amendment without google?

Don’t have a clue

 

[OHvol40]

Now your having to qualify your statement . Afghanistan has defeated Russia and made them pull out before they went bankrupt, they have held the greatest armed forces on the planet to a standstill for 20 years . The US armed forces would not turn on its citizens unless the world has gone to sh!t . If they did it wouldn’t be full cooperation of all the forces and the bloodbath of numbers wouldn’t matter at that point .

That’s your hope and mine... but what if it did? Isn’t that a big 2A talking point?

 

[1972 Grad]

Ok, quick, what’s the eighth amendment without google?

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife?

 

[0nelilreb]

Don’t have a clue

If you want to talk about excessive fines and bail start a thread .. this is the gun thread .

 

[OHvol40]

That is why we need rocket launchers, full auto rifles, bazookas, grenades, anti-aircraft guns, tanks, A10 Warthogs, etc.

Lol no thanks, I don’t trust you or any of my neighbors with any of that

 

[OHvol40]

Don’t have a clue

I know

 

[OHvol40]

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife?

Lol

 

[LouderVol]

History tells us that hunting does need to be regulated because people aren’t capable of regulating themselves. This a proven, historical fact. So unless you like seeing species become extinct from excessive unregulated hunting, like they have in the past, then yes, hunting regulation is necessary. Anything else is just short-sighted.

Statistics also tell us that gun regulations work in the prevention of gun violence. Wish that weren’t true, but again, human nature dictates that people can’t or won’t police themselves. I’m of the opinion that not everyone deserves the privilege of gun ownership, because it’s a responsibility, and a serious one.

That pretty much all stems from when americans were spreading across the nation and had nothing else to eat. Most americans dont live off hunting now. Or at least can shop for other stuff where during those times, not so much.

That and the railroads.

Not individuals game hunting.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

If you can’t count on that, and the military follows their orders against US citizens... what does that ultimately mean? Because that’s the excuse I hear consistently for keeping citizens armed.

If the entire country stops paying taxes the military may have a hard time keeping soldiers they can’t pay.