Gun control debate (merged)

[hog88]

When were you granted the right to bear arms?

The day God created Adam. Or whenever the first life form crawled out of the primordial ooze.

Whichever version you believe in.

 

[0nelilreb]

There are numerous things that could be done that would insure people's right to keep and bear arms while at the same time reducing the amount of gun violence.
This thread is about as enjoyable as rubbing the skin off of your leg with sandpaper, and even less productive.

Numerous things are already being done that would insure people’s safety without you gun grabbers trying to take even more of our rights away . There are already thousands of laws pertaining to firearms on the local , state and federal levels . Why is it do you think we are so adamant about protecting what we already have as a right ? What in your mind , is the reason we don’t give in and don’t trust you to stop at what you say is rational and reasonable ?

 

[bnhunt]

Opposition to limiting individual liberty is never wrong.

What about someone's right to free assembly, right to freedom of speech, right to worship, etc.? Are those rights less important than the "right" to unfettered firearms?

 

[Rickyvol77]

Laws do effect behavior. I can guarantee you that I drive more slowly on some roads than I otherwise would if there were no speed limit. I guarantee many people would be more willing to have that third of fourth beer before they left the bar if DWI wasn't illegal.

Secondly, if one does have the will to kill or maim innocent people, I would much prefer they not have an AK-47 or nuclear warhead.

Except the laws are most reactionary not preventive

 

[Rickyvol77]

Compare gun violence in our country and countries with stricter laws.

Countries who don’t already have 350 million guns AND criminals everywhere in the name of diversity?

 

[Rickyvol77]

So said the the owners of the millions of guns which have been stolen the day before they were stolen.

There is nowhere close to a million guns stolen

 

[bnhunt]

Compare gun violence in our country and countries with stricter laws.

Agreed. #'s don't lie.
Two students were killed in a school shooting in Los Angeles on Thursday — here are 5 countries that have taken radical steps to eliminate firearm deaths

 

[bnhunt]

Banning my AR -15 nets you nothing . There is only one person effected , only one person loses rights , the community is not safer because my AR is no longer in my possession . You can’t prove that one life will be saved because I don’t have it . Society is not any safer because of a ban on my AR . Your side tried that once and the ban was lifted because you couldn’t show cause .

So says every mass murderer right before they go on a shooting spree.

 

[0nelilreb]

Agreed. #'s don't lie.
Two students were killed in a school shooting in Los Angeles on Thursday — here are 5 countries that have taken radical steps to eliminate firearm deaths

Any of those the size of the US? Any of those have a 2a in their constitution? You can’t even come up with a solution that isn’t called radical steps . I especially like the idea of selling my firearms to the government then they tax me for doing it . Smh

 

[0nelilreb]

So says every mass murderer right before they go on a shooting spree.

Really they do ? I’m calling BS , and I’m going to need proof . A link and not some agenda driven talking points .

 

[Rickyvol77]

So says every mass murderer right before they go on a shooting spree.

Most of them already violates law now to get them. Why would that change? You realize gun laws aren’t effective and don’t have any impact

 

[Electric Orange]

FINALLY! A state with the guts to stand up to the NRA and do the right thing. If this legislation saves one child's life or any person's life, then it is worth it, which it certainly will.

 

[Electric Orange]

This is going to end poorly

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

These guys aren’t against guns, they’re simply against you having guns. How else do you think they’ll get your guns? Why government guns of course. A government headed by someone they literally think is Hitler. Figure that **** out.

 

[0nelilreb]

So says every mass murderer right before they go on a shooting spree.

You do realize your team managed to get an assault weapons ban enacted and had to let it expire after 10 years because they couldn’t show it helped right ? The Sunset clause . Having to show results , killed your argument .

 

[NorthDallas40]

What about someone's right to free assembly, right to freedom of speech, right to worship, etc.? Are those rights less important than the "right" to unfettered firearms?

Go run your pie hole on a street corner or in your church about your irrational fear/hatred of an inanimate object. We won’t stop you or listen to you for that matter! Have fun!

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

These guys aren’t against guns, they’re simply against you having guns. How else do you think they’ll get your guns? Why government guns of course. A government headed by someone they literally think is Hitler. Figure that **** out.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Nah, I get on here every few months to stir up you reds.

Yep and we enjoy it! The dipshit stuff you post in this thread is priceless

 

[bnhunt]

Go run your pie hole on a street corner or in your church about your irrational fear/hatred of an inanimate object. We won’t stop you or listen to you for that matter! Have fun!

Being in fear of guns is irrational. Surely, you don't even believe that one?

 

[NorthDallas40]

Being in fear of guns is irrational. Surely, you don't even believe that one?

Oh I don’t. But again based on the dipshit stuff you post...

 

[bnhunt]

Yep and we enjoy it! The dipshit stuff you post in this thread is priceless

And I enjoy reading all the redneck shi* that you right-wing crazies post about your guns. It's amazing how much you people care about them.

 

[NorthDallas40]

And I enjoy reading all the redneck **** that you right-wing crazies post about your guns. It's amazing how much you people care about them.

Sounds like win win then! Keep posting your uninformed dumbassery

 

[bnhunt]

Oh I don’t. But again based on the dipshit stuff you post...

Guns concern me and if that makes me irrational, then so be it.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Guns concern me and if that makes me irrational, then so be it.

yeah they’re super scary. One minute it’s laying there. Next minute it jumps up and BANG!

 

[bnhunt]

Sounds like win win then! Keep posting your uninformed dumbassery

As long as you keep posting your redneck right-wing conspiracy garbage.