Gun control debate (merged)

[CagleMtnVol]

 

[85SugarVol]

Of course. Trying to profit off of dead kids

Yea, it’s you people that usually look to profit from dead kids.

 

[C-south]

If this rule stands carbines and bullpup kits will be next.

 

[85SugarVol]

Because we have never passed, and upheld, unconstitutional laws in this country…

Did this ever get a response from @luthervol ?

 

[luthervol]

Did this ever get a response from @luthervol ?

Obviously the SC has interpreted what is and is not constitutional differently at various times.
But it is a document that is necessarily open for interpretation....like the Bible or any other document designed to guide a group of people.

 

[Vol8188]

Some irrationally and illogically see it that way; most don't.

Both minimum wage and gun control have a deep history of racism. California for example was an open carry state until the black panthers started carrying in public.

Is it a coincidence that you support both of these racially motivated policies?

 

[85SugarVol]

Obviously the SC has interpreted what is and is not constitutional differently at various times.
But it is a document that is necessarily open for interpretation....like the Bible or any other document designed to guide a group of people.

Then these regulations and restrictions are what? Simply constitutional for now?

There are already constitutional regulations and restrictions placed on guns.
They are not infringements, because that would be unconstitutional. Right??????

 

[luthervol]

Both minimum wage and gun control have a deep history of racism. California for example was an open carry state until the black panthers started carrying in public.

Is it a coincidence that you support both of these racially motivated policies?

Everything in this country has a deep history of racism.
Most things evolve over time.

Is it coincidence that you parrot the right wing narrative of the minimum wage and gun control being some type of racial issue?
I'm guessing it's not.

 

[luthervol]

Then these regulations and restrictions are what? Simply constitutional for now?

Sure. They can obviously be weakened, strengthened, or thrown out - all while the justices are claiming their decision is in line with the constitution.

 

[85SugarVol]

Everything in this country has a deep history of racism.
Most things evolve over time.

Is it coincidence that you parrot the right wing narrative of the minimum wage and gun control being some type of racial issue?
I'm guessing it's not.

I tried to get an answer from others on the board promoting increased background checks, mandatory trainings, registries, insurance, etc - got nothing but crickets.

These new laws, I assume, would be enforced with penalties for non-compliance.

Who do we think would get hit the hardest with penalty for failure to comply? Since we’re talking US history.

 

[85SugarVol]

Sure. They can obviously be weakened, strengthened, or thrown out - all while the justices are claiming their decision is in line with the constitution.

So your claim that these infringements are not actually infringements? Is dependent on what then?

 

[luthervol]

I tried to get an answer from others on the board promoting increased background checks, mandatory trainings, registries, insurance, etc - got nothing but crickets.

These new laws, I assume, would be enforced with penalties for non-compliance.

Who do we think would get hit the hardest with penalty for failure to comply? Since we’re talking US history.

Extremist gun nuts and people profiting from legal purchase and illegal resell.

 

[Vol8188]

Everything in this country has a deep history of racism.
Most things evolve over time.

Is it coincidence that you parrot the right wing narrative of the minimum wage and gun control being some type of racial issue?
I'm guessing it's not.

You’re asking me if a fact is a coincidence? That’s such a nonsense question idk how to respond.

Minimum wage was started in this country to price out black labor and still does so today.

Gun control in this country was used to protect from those scary black people with guns and today the primary victims of gun laws are still black men.

Which one of those claims is not a fact and is just me parroting conservative talking points?

 

[luthervol]

So your claim that these infringements are not actually infringements? Is dependent on what then?

The most recent interpretations and rulings by the SC.

 

[Vol8188]

There are already constitutional regulations and restrictions placed on guns.
They are not infringements, because that would be unconstitutional. Right??????

Back to his slippery slope. “You let us enact some laws, why not more?”

While trying to simultaneously tell you that the slippery slope isn’t real “what? Take all guns? No! I just want common sense reform. I’ll totally stop there even though I’m using previous laws as my justification for even more laws”

 

[85SugarVol]

Extremist gun nuts and people profiting from legal purchase and illegal resell.

You honestly believe that?

Who already doesn’t comply today?

 

[luthervol]

You’re asking me if a fact is a coincidence? That’s such a nonsense question idk how to respond.

Minimum wage was started in this country to price out black labor and still does so today.

Gun control in this country was used to protect from those scary black people with guns and today the primary victims of gun laws are still black men.

Which one of those claims is not a fact and is just me parroting conservative talking points?

Both.

 

[luthervol]

You honestly believe that?

Who already doesn’t comply today?

I do.

 

[volinbham]

Everything in this country has a deep history of racism.
Most things evolve over time.

interesting choice of everything vs most things; particularly with the modifier of deep on the everything one.

 

[85SugarVol]

Back to his slippery slope. “You let us enact some laws, why not more?”

While trying to simultaneously tell you that the slippery slope isn’t real “what? Take all guns? No! I just want common sense reform. I’ll totally stop there even though I’m using previous laws as my justification for even more laws”

1934 National Firearms Act.

Maybe we can get Thomas’ buddy to take him on another boat ride.

 

[85SugarVol]

I do.

Ok.

Who doesn’t comply today already?

 

[luthervol]

You’re asking me if a fact is a coincidence? That’s such a nonsense question idk how to respond.

Minimum wage was started in this country to price out black labor and still does so today.

Gun control in this country was used to protect from those scary black people with guns and today the primary victims of gun laws are still black men.

Which one of those claims is not a fact and is just me parroting conservative talking points?

minimum wage.
The purpose of the minimum wage was to stabilize the post-depression economy and protect the workers in the labor force. The minimum wage was designed to create a minimum standard of living to protect the health and well-being of employees.

 

[luthervol]

Ok.

Who doesn’t comply today already?

Who?

 

[volinbham]

minimum wage.
The purpose of the minimum wage was to stabilize the post-depression economy and protect the workers in the labor force. The minimum wage was designed to create a minimum standard of living to protect the health and well-being of employees.

perhaps not the whole story?

On The Historically Racist Motivations Behind Minimum Wage

Opinion | The Minimum Wage’s Racially Discriminatory Roots

The Racist History of Minimum Wage Laws | Chris Calton

 

[85SugarVol]

Who?

Poor black males.

They will be disproportionately impacted by these new laws and regulations, as is often the case.

They, unlike the “extremist gun nuts” with thousands of dollars worth of firearms, also lack the financial wherewithal to fight in court.

We will incarcerate far more of them than the ones you want.