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CarbonVol said:
I’m not opposed to it I guess but what’s all the hype about? His career record as a coach is 100-85 that’s not good. Chip Kelly could win in college but couldn’t in the NFL. Gruden couldn’t win in the NFL other than 1 fluke Super Bowl win so what makes us think he can win in college?

I know he could probably attract big time assistants because he’s popular, and he’s a self proclaimed QB guru that can break down plays pretty well but I just don’t see much else. I’m not knocking the idea at all guys anything is better than what we have. I just wanted to know if I’m missing something?
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In terms of Xs and Os there are plenty of reasons to think Gruden will be fantastic. I wouldn't call his Superbowl a fluke either. That TB team just had a lot of injuries to key players the following year. My concerns on him are in recruiting primarily.

But, at this point the Gruden express has spun up to speed once again. It's will keep running until we hire a new coach. Best to just go with it. There is no fixing a train while it's running. Besides the Grudenite threads are nothing if not entertaining.
 
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wildorange said:
Have you looked at Harbaugh and Spurrier NFL records. How about Chip Kellys short time in the NFL. The NFL records are very deceiving, very few coaches have great NFL records. Just look them up. GBO!!!! SOON!!!!!
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Harbaugh probably isn’t the best example, he was 44-19 with three playoff appearances. But you are correct, there are more than enough examples of guys who were considered failures at the NFL level who have been highly successful in college.
 
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Boston Vol said:
Harbaugh probably isn’t the best example, he was 44-19 with three playoff appearances. But you are correct, there are more than enough examples of guys who were considered failures at the NFL level who have been highly successful in college.
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Correct, I hastly put Harbaugh in the there typing that post out. He actually had a good record, but things were starting to go south there but it had just started. Things were unraveling and he seen it. The NFL is a tough animal as far as W-L, that was my point like you said. Most that coach in it do not have glorious W-L records. And that goes for some very good coaches. GBO!!!!
 
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Boston Vol said:
One year, so what? Has Gruden been living on a deserted island for the past 8 years? I’m pretty sure you don’t just forget how to coach football.
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You're right about not forgetting how to coach from a pure X's and O's standpoint. The recruiting portion of things is a bit harder to get back into after a long time away, especially with how frequently the contact rules change. That, and dealing with 18 and 19 year olds is a bit different than the grown men in the NFL.

I'm not saying he wouldn't be good or it wouldn't work, but there would be a bit of an adjustment for sure if he's truly been disconnected from it all for a while.
 
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Coastypop said:
Do you know that is far better than Saban's NFL record?
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UGA guy trying to tell us he won't be successful because of his NFL record....I'm tired of that argument. It has been dispelled time and time again.

But then again, I like our opponents being down on the hire...they know that would be trouble for them.
 
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It’s unclear whether Gruden would have interest in the job, but SEC Network radio host Paul Finebaum was told that Gruden would be the leader in the clubhouse for the Volunteers if they chose to make a change.

Vegas has even updated the odds for him being the coach from +10000 to +2000.

I do not see him leaving a $6.5 million MNF gig, to go back to the grind of coaching college football though.
 
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Gruden has probably been around more teams and discussed more x and o's the last 8 years than most coaches. He also has helped coach many high school players in florida. He has the pulse of the younger guys as well. He eats and breathes football.GBO!!!!!
 
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willinhf said:
UGA guy trying to tell us he won't be successful because of his NFL record....I'm tired of that argument. It has been dispelled time and time again.

But then again, I like our opponents being down on the hire...they know that would be trouble for them.
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I can tell you one thing, our rivals would **** their pants if we hired Gruden. Kids would fight over spots to play here.
 
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SDV said:
I can tell you one thing, our rivals would **** their pants if we hired Gruden. Kids would fight over spots to play here.
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But wait! I thought he was going to be a horrible recruiter since he doesn't know college ball?!?!?!
 
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willinhf said:
UGA guy trying to tell us he won't be successful because of his NFL record....I'm tired of that argument. It has been dispelled time and time again.

But then again, I like our opponents being down on the hire...they know that would be trouble for them.
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What was Sabans, the greatest cfb ever, record on the NFL?
 
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willinhf said:
UGA guy trying to tell us he won't be successful because of his NFL record....I'm tired of that argument. It has been dispelled time and time again.

But then again, I like our opponents being down on the hire...they know that would be trouble for them.
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He scurred.
 
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willinhf said:
. . .And Nick Saban was 15-17 (0.468) with the Miami Dolphins.

Steve Spurrier was 12-20 (0.375) with the Redskins. . .
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Both of those coaches had extensive experience as head coaches at the collegiate level before going to the NFL. Returning to the college game for them was a VERY different experience than it would be for Gruden.

I think your and others' assumptions regarding recruiting are valid. I believe his celebrity would benefit him greatly, at least in the short term.

I also agree that he has a very high "football IQ," and I believe his game planning and game day coaching would be in another universe as compared to the current situation. I am confident that his player development would be far, far superior.

My reservations are due to his inexperience with the NCAA, boosters and all the off-field things that a HC at an SEC program deals with regularly. I think his inexperience represents a legitimate risk, especially considering the cost of acquiring him. Will he get the school in trouble? Will this part of the job be something he is able to deal with and not have him leap back to the NFL or TV in 2-3 years? If something bad did happen, it will make the setbacks over the last decade seem trivial by comparison. This is why I don't believe JG is an obvious home run.

But, the upside is so high that he's definitely worth the risk. I would be very excited if he came to Tennessee.
 
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Anyone saying Gruden wouldn't come here and recruit #1 classes every year is past lost. Really??!?? We would out-recruit every one and Gruden would put together a hell of a staff. He is by far the best we could have come here. The only concern I have would be how long would he stay.
 
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