Gruden should keep entire offensive staff (if hired)

#27
#27
Smokey1210 said:
Because they watched the defensive players look like **** all year learning a new system and would not want their stock to drop even more cause of play book intelligence.
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Why would their stock drop running an offense straight from the league by a coach who has been in the NFL for decades? I could name at least 10 teams that run variants of what he runs and most of the league shares same concepts. If anything, it enhances stock.
 
#28
#28
bam15 said:
Why would their stock drop running an offense straight from the league by a coach who has been in the NFL for decades? I could name at least 10 teams that run variants of what he runs and most of the league shares same concepts. If anything, it enhances stock.
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His base assumption that execution would be similar to this staff is ridiculous.
 
#29
#29
bam15 said:
Why would their stock drop running an offense straight from the league by a coach who has been in the NFL for decades? I could name at least 10 teams that run variants of what he runs and most of the league shares same concepts. If anything, it enhances stock.
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Good point. I just believe it is easy to change OC in the NFL because those guys have been students of the game for a long time and have been through many different offenses BUT we will struggle learning a new offense next year and 14 will be horrible anyway losing 9 starters anyway and will be expected so why not just change then.
 
#34
#34
Smokey1210 said:
I know I will probably get blasted for this but.... I think he should keep the entire offensive staff. Now before you all go all ape **** on me. Some justification.

1. We will return 9 starters on offense and 8 will be Sr's. all those guys would have to learn a new system in our potentially best offensive team in decades.
2. Hinshaw is the recruiting coordinator and would provide a seamless transition to HCJG who has not been studying film over the last 3 years of HS players.
3. Pittman has done absolutely nothing to deserve to be gone no matter what.
4. Jay Graham..... Come in no need for explanation here.
5. If you want to bring in your staff on offense might as well do it the second year when he would know for sure who he wanted to keep and who to let go. Don't forget this is going to be a very expensive transition for the university and we would save a lot of money in buy outs.

I know a lot of people want Chaney gone but Gruden could slowly implement his offense through out the season and make Chaney deal with it. We all have heard how extensive grudens offense is and I really do think it would be better for him to come in and determine which plays he likes and and throw in periodically what he wants of his own.

Flame away!
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Not going to blast you like in the past because beating up on the mentally challenged isn't nice :thumbsup: But isn't changing coaches the reason for trying to improve the product on the field?....I mean if we keep the entire offensive staff we might as well keep Dooley too....We want change, Not a new coach with the same problems....I'm sure if hired he will bring his own staff with him.
 
#35
#35
Smokey1210 said:
So if Chaney goes you all do realize our whole offensive play book is gone as well. Every player will have different assignments on every single play that 8 players will have studied for over three years and Tiny who will leave after next year will have been studying for over 2.
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Bray doesn't know most of it anyways.
 
#40
#40
Smokey1210 said:
All you have to do is look at what it has done to our defense this year to understand how detrimental it can be to change your whole philosophy in one season. Next year should be unbelievable for our offense.
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Very good point.

I don't really understand the dislike of Chaney. Our offense has been in the top 30-35 in the country all year, which is about where Cut usually had us in the glory years.

Those who say Chaney can't run the ball, we have run the ball pretty well vs. MSU, and UGA, and would have run it better against bammer if not so far behind so early.

I think people simply dislike him because he doesn't fit a certain mold of coach they are looking for.
 
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#42
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docholiday said:
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I agree.
 
#44
#44
Outside of Graham and maybe Pittman you can toss the rest. And Pittman is a toss up.

The program needs a fresh direction.
 
#45
#45
I want a qb that can get out of the pocket and extend drives, a nasty rb, an OC that will use the entire field and surprise me with calls in the game, a DC that won't put our weakest players in mismatches, a penetrating DL, havoc causing lbs, and @ 4 6'1 guys in the defensive backfield that look and play like Dale freaking Carter.

I don't give a flip who coaches them either.
 
#46
#46
Spartacavolus said:
I want a qb that can get out of the pocket and extend drives, a nasty rb, an OC that will use the entire field and surprise me with calls in the game, a DC that won't put our weakest players in mismatches, a penetrating DL, havoc causing lbs, and @ 4 6'1 guys in the defensive backfield that look and play like Dale freaking Carter.

I don't give a flip who coaches them either.
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If Kiffin only would had not ran off Boyd.
 
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#47
#47
Spartacavolus said:
I want a qb that can get out of the pocket and extend drives, a nasty rb, an OC that will use the entire field and surprise me with calls in the game, a DC that won't put our weakest players in mismatches, a penetrating DL, havoc causing lbs, and @ 4 6'1 guys in the defensive backfield that look and play like Dale freaking Carter.

I don't give a flip who coaches them either.
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This is almost a need nowadays. Pass rushers are getting more and more athletic.
 
#48
#48
Spartacavolus said:
I want a qb that can get out of the pocket and extend drives, a nasty rb, an OC that will use the entire field and surprise me with calls in the game, a DC that won't put our weakest players in mismatches, a penetrating DL, havoc causing lbs, and @ 4 6'1 guys in the defensive backfield that look and play like Dale freaking Carter.

I don't give a flip who coaches them either.
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Nathan Peterman could excel in Grudens offense IMO
 
#50
#50
Smokey1210 said:
I know I will probably get blasted for this but.... I think he should keep the entire offensive staff. Now before you all go all ape **** on me. Some justification.

1. We will return 9 starters on offense and 8 will be Sr's. all those guys would have to learn a new system in our potentially best offensive team in decades.
2. Hinshaw is the recruiting coordinator and would provide a seamless transition to HCJG who has not been studying film over the last 3 years of HS players.
3. Pittman has done absolutely nothing to deserve to be gone no matter what.
4. Jay Graham..... Come in no need for explanation here.
5. If you want to bring in your staff on offense might as well do it the second year when he would know for sure who he wanted to keep and who to let go. Don't forget this is going to be a very expensive transition for the university and we would save a lot of money in buy outs.

I know a lot of people want Chaney gone but Gruden could slowly implement his offense through out the season and make Chaney deal with it. We all have heard how extensive grudens offense is and I really do think it would be better for him to come in and determine which plays he likes and and throw in periodically what he wants of his own.

Flame away!
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Let go of the past. Gruden will put together a great staff. Some of these may be asked to stay but I would put the over/under at 1.5. Gruden will have a world class staff and we should just see who he has in mind.
 
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