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The university is now paying student athletes? Right now it’s from proceeds of hat sales, next it’s tickets sales, then all revenue?
 
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utvolpj said:
It's a valid question but this isn't a charity. It's a fund to buy football players
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It states that “a portion” goes to the players. If “a portion” equates to a vast majority not going to the players, then that’s an issue due to it not efficiently and effectively achieving its goals.

It actually operates legally exactly like a charity, despite its purpose. Thanks and Go Vols!
 
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I like the hat. Saw it in some of the commitment pics (hat choosing). Safe to assume that the VOLS letters are supposed to resemble the letters once on Neyland (that DW might be bringing back)?
 
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I don’t like the “portion” part of it. Should say all proceeds go to the NIL fund. Otherwise they look more like vultures than anything else.
 
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The_Big_Orange said:
I don’t like the “portion” part of it. Should say all proceeds go to the NIL fund. Otherwise they look more like vultures than anything else.
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UT teaches a course on NIL for credit. Think I need to take it before talking about a complicted system.

However. The one think I thought was solid is the university can not be involved with NIL. So talk of NIL funds seem strange.

NCAA has already open two NIl cases involving NIL. BYU and University of Miami are under investigation for pay to play.

This cap deal seems out of bounds as well.
 
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Aladywhovolunteer said:
UT teaches a course on NIL for credit. Think I need to take it before talking about a complicted system.

However. The one think I thought was solid is the university can not be involved with NIL. So talk of NIL funds seem strange.

NCAA has already open two NIl cases involving NIL. BYU and University of Miami are under investigation for pay to play.

This cap deal seems out of bounds as well.
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I think in BYU's case, it's moreso that they've effectively eliminated the scholarship limit and class limit by offering NIL to all walk-on players. Essentially, you could offer 10, 20, 30...however many "walk ons" an NIL that is of equal or greater value than a scholarship - and still sign 25 scholarship players.
 
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SalVolinus said:
I think in BYU's case, it's moreso that they've effectively eliminated the scholarship limit and class limit by offering NIL to all walk-on players. Essentially, you could offer 10, 20, 30...however many "walk ons" an NIL that is of equal or greater value than a scholarship - and still sign 25 scholarship players.
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Great 15 minute HBO piece on BYU deal. Owner of Build Bar (power bar company) is giving $1000 a month to each BYU football player. Build Bar owner says he is doing it because he wants to win...who doesn't.
He also gave every walk-on a scholarship for at least one year. Happy for those kids... just not sure it meets NIL intent. Apparently the NCAA dosen't either.

The NIL idea is that Build Bar is providing power bars to BYU training table and claiming this constitutes BYU football team endorses his product. Let's let NCAA investigate and give ruling before we decide.
 
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Aladywhovolunteer said:
Great 15 minute HBO piece on BYU deal. Owner of Build Bar (power bar company) is giving $1000 a month to each BYU football player. Build Bar owner says he is doing it because he wants to win...who doesn't.
He also gave every walk-on a scholarship for at least one year. Happy for those kids... just not sure it meets NIL intent. Apparently the NCAA dosen't either.

The NIL idea is that Build Bar is providing power bars to BYU training table and claiming this constitutes BYU football team endorses his product. Let's let NCAA investigate and give ruling before we decide.
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I'm not sure it matters what the NCAA rules at this point. I feel like several institutions by themselves are more powerful. Conferences as a whole, especially the SEC, can probably laugh at anything the AA tries to put on them. I feel like several programs have flipped them the bird over recent investigations. LSU basketball maybe most blatant.
 
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SalVolinus said:
I'm not sure it matters what the NCAA rules at this point. I feel like several institutions by themselves are more powerful. Conferences as a whole, especially the SEC, can probably laugh at anything the AA tries to put on them. I feel like several programs have flipped them the bird over recent investigations. LSU basketball maybe most blatant.
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Great point. Power five at one point had plan to give stipends to athletes for full cost of college. NCAA represents 1260 + universities and would not cave to power five when smaller schools indicated they could not afford.
 
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The_Big_Orange said:
I don’t like the “portion” part of it. Should say all proceeds go to the NIL fund. Otherwise they look more like vultures than anything else.
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You have to account for actual costs, like printing up the hats and the hats themselves, etc.
 
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SalVolinus said:
I'm not sure it matters what the NCAA rules at this point. I feel like several institutions by themselves are more powerful. Conferences as a whole, especially the SEC, can probably laugh at anything the AA tries to put on them. I feel like several programs have flipped them the bird over recent investigations. LSU basketball maybe most blatant.
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LSU case is such an enigma. Although I'm sure, no connection, NCAA head (Emmert) used to be head of LSU. If FBI wire tap was not enough fo sink LSU...read trial transcripts from FBI hearing In NY concerning wire taps. Arizona coach caught up in wire tap testified under oath about huge sums of money LSU told him they were giving to a certain athlete...

Dick Vitale recently called out NCAA for unacceptable time table on LSU.
 
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