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#51
#51
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
One thing I'm sure of next season is that we're beating Florida. This ain't the Florida of old. All of Muschamp's defensive recruits are gone. All that's left is the scrubs McElwain has recruited the last 3 years. We're gonna win in the swamp. And rather easily IMO. 27-10. Book It.

We're gonna be fine at QB. We have the next Joe Flacco and the next Colin Kaepernick competing for the starting job. We'll also be fine at RB. We might be thin but the top-end talent is elite. John Kelly is a future starting NFL RB with heisman trophy winning potential. While Ty Chandler has NFL potential as well.

Our only loss next year will be in Tuscaloosa by one score. Then we'll get our revenge against Bama in the SEC Championship game.
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Kiss of death......that is until halftime when you publically denounce the team and get triggered like a 13 year old girl............only to backpedal like a boss after the win.
 
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#52
#52
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Ok.

(1) 2 NFL QBs competing for the starting job. Both guys have 1st round talent.
(2) A big-time NFL RB starting in the backfield for us once again.
(3) A young but talented and deep WR corp.
(4) An offensive line that is deep and improving.
(5) A defense loaded with talented playmakers.
(6) A schedule that is easiest we've had in a number of years.

Contrary to the narrative that will pervade the media this off-season, Tennessee is set up to have a huge year in 2017.
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contrary to the declarative nature of this statement, every single item you listed is simply and opinion. none of it is a known, and won't be for several months.

especially 1,2, 3, 5....
 
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BeardedVol said:
2015 was not about "bad luck", it was bad coaching. CBJ freaked out when he got a lead, made poor decisions, and tried to camp on leads late in the game and it cost the team.

2016, other than the massive injuries on the defensive side, where was this bad luck? For the first five games we had insanely good luck, the miracle fumble recovery to hold off App State in OT. VA Tech and their fumbling. The hail Mary win over GA. Bad luck had nothing to do with us losing to USCe or Vandy, or the ultimate outcome of the regular season.
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Pretty big concession to your argument to say "other than massive injuries on D, where was ther bad luck?'"
 
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JettVol said:
Can you give me some of the Chronic please, I need what you are smoking.

Dude, we are losing to Bama and LSU and UF in the swamp, go check when the last time we beat Florida on the road.....I'll wait.

Secondly with new QB and very thin at a proven RB, (Kelly is a beast but cannot tote the rock 25+ times a game through the SEC, he will get hurt before the year is over doing that)

You could argue that the game against Ga Tech and UGA is debatable or toss up games. Also, last year we found a way again to lose to Vandy and USCjr. so looking at what I've laid out before you minus the crack pipe that you are on, I count 7 very possible losses, I say toss ups to tech, UGA, Vandy and USCjr with butch somehow pulling out two of them for wins, making us 7-5. 10-2 or 11-1 is complete nonsense, you cannot be serious on any level whatsoever with the performance we had last year with a markedly more talented more veteran team.
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UF has a new QB, Bama has a QB that can't throw, LSU has a coach with a better record as an interim head coach than an actual head coach. And if you are really scared of LSU please look at their magnificent performance against UF last year
 
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njvols said:
Pretty big concession to your argument to say "other than massive injuries on D, where was ther bad luck?'"
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Because the injuries had no bearing on the "good luck" that saved us in the App State and Georgia game, or the losses to USCe and Vandy.
 
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#57
I've learned to just ignore Griff at this point. He only does this crap for clicks and attention at this point. So I've stopped giving it to him.
 
#58
#58
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Ok.

(1) 2 NFL QBs competing for the starting job. Both guys have 1st round talent.
(2) A big-time NFL RB starting in the backfield for us once again.
(3) A young but talented and deep WR corp.
(4) An offensive line that is deep and improving.
(5) A defense loaded with talented playmakers.
(6) A schedule that is easiest we've had in a number of years.

Contrary to the narrative that will pervade the media this off-season, Tennessee is set up to have a huge year in 2017.
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Not counting ourselves, we probably play the 4 toughest teams in the SEC next year with at AL, at FL, GA & LSU. The only other serious argument to that would be possibly Aub and they will have to wait until next year.

We are definitely better than GA Tech but they are a Pseudo home team with questionable tactics and a unique style of play that we aren't used to. I do expect to win that one as well.

Also you could have added # 7 in S&C Coach Rock and #8 as potential coaching upgrades, especially on Defense, OL and Special Teams. Coach Scott looked good as an OC on O&W game too, especially with TE utilization.
 
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jakez4ut said:
in fairness, PF asked him for a "range" of victories for 2017.

granted, 7-11 is a wide range...i would have expected something along the lines of 7-9 being more realistic, but it is what he was asked. he didn't just come out and say it unprovoked....:eek:lol:
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You gotta admit though, 7-11 is kind of a ridiculous "range"....one of 5 different outcomes in terms of wins. Like you said, you typically (and rightly) get 7-8, 8-9, or something like that. When you're asked to predict a record and you say 7-5 or just as easily 11-1, you're opening yourself up for criticism. Especially when there's virtually no way 11-1 is a possibility.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Ok.

(1) 2 NFL QBs competing for the starting job. Both guys have 1st round talent.
(2) A big-time NFL RB starting in the backfield for us once again.
(3) A young but talented and deep WR corp.
(4) An offensive line that is deep and improving.
(5) A defense loaded with talented playmakers.
(6) A schedule that is easiest we've had in a number of years.

Contrary to the narrative that will pervade the media this off-season, Tennessee is set up to have a huge year in 2017.
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How about you go back and perform this exercise for last year's team, Team 120? Go back and remind us of all the off-season reasons why that team, which went 8-4, was primed to go 15-0 and win the national title. How do those reasons compare to these reasons?

Btw, two words.....fourth round.
 
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The only thing on D4H's list that is a "known" is that the schedule lays out better than the past two years. There isn't a 4 week run of big games in it.
 
#63
#63
KBVol said:
You gotta admit though, 7-11 is kind of a ridiculous "range"....one of 5 different outcomes in terms of wins. Like you said, you typically (and rightly) get 7-8, 8-9, or something like that. When you're asked to predict a record and you say 7-5 or just as easily 11-1, you're opening yourself up for criticism. Especially when there's virtually no way 11-1 is a possibility.
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hence the statement "granted, it's fairly wide range..."

also as stated, agree the range was not very realistic

only point was, he was asked to give a range, and he did. :thumbsup:
 
#66
#66
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
One thing I'm sure of next season is that we're beating Florida. This ain't the Florida of old. All of Muschamp's defensive recruits are gone. All that's left is the scrubs McElwain has recruited the last 3 years. We're gonna win in the swamp. And rather easily IMO. 27-10. Book It.
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Obviously I'm hoping you are right but c'mon...you assuring something is going to happen is literally the least accurate predictor of actual outcome available to the readers of this forum.
 
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KBVol said:
How about you go back and perform this exercise for last year's team, Team 120? Go back and remind us of all the off-season reasons why that team, which went 8-4, was primed to go 15-0 and win the national title. How do those reasons compare to these reasons?

Btw, two words.....fourth round.
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What's that supposed to mean? Is this another one of your shots at Dobbs (a player you continually hate on)?

Last years team had 2 problems. Bad chemistry and a barrage of injuries. Bad chemistry because too many guys were looking more at the NFL and buying into the preseason hype. And obviously the injuries that decimated the defense.

This year we'll have no hype to worry about and a lot of guys will be looking to prove themselves. Better strength and conditioning. Better assistant coaches. Easier schedule because the tough games are better spaced out.

As long as we stay healthy, the offensive line improves, and Butch Jones doesn't sabotage the team, we should win 10+ games.
 
#68
#68
CountVolcula said:
Is this like Dobbs winning the Heisman?
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Dobbs wins the heisman last year if his teammates and coaches don't fail him.

Just watch how great he plays for the Steelers once he has competent coaches, a solid o-line, and guys at receiver that won't drop easy catches.

He'll be LEGENDARY.
 
#69
#69
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Dobbs wins the heisman last year if his teammates and coaches don't fail him.

Just watch how great he plays for the Steelers once he has competent coaches, a solid o-line, and guys at receiver that won't drop easy catches.

He'll be LEGENDARY.
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Did you even watch any of the 2016 Heisman candidates play?
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
What's that supposed to mean? Is this another one of your shots at Dobbs (a player you continually hate on)?

Last years team had 2 problems. Bad chemistry and a barrage of injuries. Bad chemistry because too many guys were looking more at the NFL and buying into the preseason hype. And obviously the injuries that decimated the defense.

This year we'll have no hype to worry about and a lot of guys will be looking to prove themselves. Better strength and conditioning. Better assistant coaches. Easier schedule because the tough games are better spaced out.

As long as we stay healthy, the offensive line improves, and Butch Jones doesn't sabotage the team, we should win 10+ games.
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There were a lot more than 2 problems last year.
 
#73
#73
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Oh yeah I forget about Butch Jones ineptitude.

So you're right. We had 3 problems last year.

1. Bad chemistry
2. Tons of injuries
3. Butch Jones
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I'm not a Butch apologists, but don't you think there is a reason that all the talent that you say we have wants to come play for him? What about our current coaching staff, which is easily the best he's had since he's been here? Butch is by no means perfect, but he's not nearly as incompetent as you make him out to be.
 
#74
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
It's happened before. Teams win inspite of the head coach's ineptitude.

I expect the assistant coaches like Bob Shoop and Larry Scott to have more freedom next year. I also think the overall talent and depth will be better on the team. This level of talent should be good enough to drag a head coach like Butch Jones to at least 10 wins if we stay relatively healthy.

Plus we might actually have luck on our side when it comes to injuries for the first time in years.
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Thank goodness you don't bet. You'd have to stop paying rent because you wouldn't be able to afford your trailer.
 
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