Greenland

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#153
By the way, this whole hubbub over Greenland is less about its strategic military importance and more about the huge amount of minerals and ores that they have there. With the melting polar caps, these kind of valuable resources will in the future likely become available commercially on a large scale.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
if the EU was seriously concerned about the defense of all NATO territories they would be happy with Trump's plan.
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Oh, please tell us all about Trump‘s plans. This should be interesting given that he hasn’t released his plans.😜
 
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MontyPython said:
By the way, this whole hubbub over Greenland is less about it s strategic military importance and more about the huge amount of minerals and ores that they have there. With the melting polar caps, these kind of valuable resources will in the future likely become available commercially on a large scale.
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So global warming is a good thing.
 
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MontyPython said:
If Trump actually wants to do the right thing here with Greenland, he needs to put big giant ****ing cash on the table. Pay Denmark for the territory, but more importantly, pay big money to raise the standard of living in Greenland. Give them a reason to want to join us.

All this retarded power flexing by Trump is just stupid.

I actually think the United States potentially acquiring Greenland would be a major coup similar to us buying Alaska from Russia back in the day. That proved an amazing investment.

But just stop with the sabre rattling and threats.
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Sabre Rattling normally mean threatening force with no intentions of using it.

I do not believe nor hope force should be used here in any aspect but dude is blowing up drug boats, dropping stealth bombs on Iran, just took anothers countries leader without a blip of chatter known prior.

Many things can be said about Trump but he clearly will do what he says when he talks militarily.
 
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MontyPython said:
Oh, please tell us all about Trump‘s plans. This should be interesting given that he hasn’t released his plans.😜
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(Europe plans)
My wild guess as I told you probably a few years ago in the Ukraine thread... it will probably be something like..


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The military option would be incredibly stupid. They aren’t some crackpot dictatorship or an enemy that has harmed us. We should at least try to make them an ally of ours. Who knows with Trump though.
 
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Matt2496 said:
The military option would be incredibly stupid. They aren’t some crackpot dictatorship or an enemy that has harmed us. We should at least try to make them an ally of ours. Who knows with Trump though.
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Or just walk right in.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Venezuelans are flooding Youtube to tell these liberals to STFU and mind their own business. Heck, it sounds like they're flooding protests and telling them to their face to STFU and mind their own business.
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Beginning to get on board with the idea that the craziest people in the world are white liberal women.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
Luca Brasi involved?
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https://www.infowars.com/posts/step...e-greenland-wouldnt-even-have-to-fight-for-it
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5674507-stephen-miller-trump-greenland/

Stephen Miller Asserts US Has Right To Take Greenland, & Wouldn’t Even Have To Fight For It​

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“The real question is what right does Denmark have to assert control over Greenland? What is the basis of their territorial claim? What is their basis of having Greenland as a colony of Denmark?” Miller then questioned.
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Close, Stephen Miller. 😂
 
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GVF said:
Does that mean Trump will be collecting Biden's $25m bounty he put on Maduro's head. I'm confused.

This is the same Maduro that lost the election, then the guy that won had to flee to Spain in exile to live ??? Other than being a dictator, he is not the duely elected leader of the country ??? Still confused. Did we abduct the rightful president of a country, or a defeated president that threw out the election and refused to vacate a position he was not elected to.
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Be careful. You'll get "but, but Jan 6!"
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
He's proven that his family is going to profit from every international move he's made for the US in this term. From market manipulation with the tariffs to our dealings in the ME. He's not even trying to hide it. Sorry, his interests are always put before the USA's interests
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EasternVol said:
Maybe you should turn that in to your Social Studies teacher for feedback. You'd lose points for thinking that countries regulate shipping in international waters.
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Well, we are regulating drug shipping in international waters in a most permanent manner for the shipping parties.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
Beginning to get on board with the idea that the craziest people in the world are white liberal women.
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And their sneaky f***ers.

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NashVol11 said:
It has not held any vital strategic importance through 250 years of our history, but Trump said we need it so now that's your opinion
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Well, the first ICBMs were not operational until 1959 and, as referenced above, Russia's are positioned now where their flights would mostly go directly or near Greenland.

I.e. other words, your correct it did not hold any vital strategic importance during the age of sail and dreadnoughts, probably increased some during long-range bombers and now it can be argued it does occupy a strategic position. If so, the real question is why the dumbasses who were President since the 80s not think about this?
 
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GroverCleveland said:
Well, the first ICBMs were not operational until 1959 and, as referenced above, Russia's are positioned now where their flights would mostly go directly or near Greenland.

I.e. other words, your correct it did not hold any vital strategic importance during the age of sail and dreadnoughts, probably increased some during long-range bombers and now it can be argued it does occupy a strategic position. If so, the real question is why the dumbasses who were President since the 80s not think about this?
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Probably correctly realized that we do not need to annex Greenland for "protection," which I suspect Trump knows as well. Just another Gulf of America thing where he can say he changed something
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
He's proven that his family is going to profit from every international move he's made for the US in this term. From market manipulation with the tariffs to our dealings in the ME. He's not even trying to hide it. Sorry, his interests are always put before the USA's interests
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Say it ain't so! A politician in Washington putting their financial best interest in front of the country's?

"I’m shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here."
 
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jmacvols1 said:
Trump is for what is in the vital security interests of the US therefore the left must take a stand against what is in the vital security interests of the US


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Greenland - As viewed from a proper map

Why Greenland?

Well because Moscow bases almost all of their strategic military assets on the Kola Peninsula next to Finland. This is where the Russian ICBM silos, submarine bases, and their strategic bombers are.

If you look at the flight path (ballistic or powered) from Kola to anywhere on the lower 48, then everything goes over Greenland.

Greenland is the theatre where any strategic exchange between Washington and Moscow is contested.

If you want to intercept a ballistic missile, the best point to do so is at the apogee, at the top of the flight path. The shortest route for an interceptor to get to an apogee is from directly below the apogee.

That’s where Greenland is.

So, without stating what should happen here, this is **why** the Trump administration says they **need** Greenland for national security.

The other thing that is happening is that the Northern Passage through the Arctic is opening up, and soon there will be Chinese cargo ships sailing through the Arctic to Rotterdam. It’s faster than the Suez and the ships aren’t limited to Suezmax size so China and EU trade is going to accelerate a lot.

This means Chinese submarines will also be venturing under the Arctic into the Northern Atlantic, IF THEY AREN’T ALREADY DOING SO.

Hence, the North East coast of Greenland serves not 1 but 2 critical strategic security objectives of US national security.

If this wasn’t clear to you, please understand that the Mercator global map projection is for children and journalists only. It is not a useful guide to where any countries or territories actually are in the real world that we live in. No self respecting adult should be using Mercator for their worldview. Anyone saying “there must be some other secret reason for Trump being interested in Greenland” is a certified ignoramus.

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Could it be the EU does not want Trump to have control of Greenland where Trump could regulate cargo ships that go through the Northwest passage to Europe?
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Informative. Thank you
 
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