Great Read on Neyland and the UT/Bama Rivalry

[ob79]

For my fellow Volunteer historians this is a GREAT read....

SEC coaching rivalries: Robert Neyland vs. Frank Thomas, 1931-1946

Best quote from Neyland:

General Neyland famously said once:

“You never know about a player until he has played against Alabama.”

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

Neyland said "football is 90% talent and 10% coaching" I wonder what the Dooley haters think about that? was The General wrong or are they wrong?

 

[tvolsfan]

Neyland said "football is 90% talent and 10% coaching" I wonder what the Dooley haters think about that? was The General wrong or are they wrong?

Why is someone wrong?

 

[tvolsfan]

Article is off by a year on the General's first SEC title, but it was still a good read.

 

[YorkVol]

In practice Neyland gave more time than any of his peers to the science and timing of blocking. As a result his Tennessee teams racked up 112 shutouts over his thirty-year career.

Key.

 

[volconomist]

Neyland said "football is 90% talent and 10% coaching" I wonder what the Dooley haters think about that? was The General wrong or are they wrong?

Did you just see a quote and assume Neyland said it?

He didn't, the AD at Bama did.

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

Why is someone wrong?

by placing all the blame on Dooley and saying that the lack of depth and talent is an just an excuse when its the truth. the jury is still out on Dooley but to say its all his fault is asanine.

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

Did you just see a quote and assume Neyland said it?

He didn't, the AD at Bama did.

Well I stand corrected, thanks for pointing that out. I still think he was right though.

 

[ob79]

I know the athletes are completely different now than they were then and comparing eras is an exercise in futility, but I often wonder what results the General would get in today's game.

...obviously a slow day for me.

 

[laroc99a]

Neyland said "football is 90% talent and 10% coaching" I wonder what the Dooley haters think about that? was The General wrong or are they wrong?

You gotta coach up talent not hold it back

 

[KoachKletus]

You gotta coach up talent not hold it back

Ummm, in case you missed it - that's what the 10% is for. Pay attention.

 

[gnm53108]

I agree. Great read.

Thanks ob79.

 

[thebjd]

Ummm, in case you missed it - that's what the 10% is for. Pay attention.

Every time i read your posts i read them in Popeye's voice.

 

[JAEvans24]

Thanks for posting.

 

[Georgia Peach]

Thanks OB. I have to give the pops some Christmas ideas. Reading and UT FB can't go wrong.

 

[TinaMae]

Thanks for posting

 

[oldsarge]

One other mistake, Tennessee played in two Rose Bowls losing both.

On 1 Jan 1940 Tennessee lost 14-0 to USC. I believe George Cafego suffered a severe ankle injury against Citadel that was still affecting him on New Year's Day.

On 1 Jan 1945 Tennessee lost 25-0 to USC, again. USC was a military training school during WW2. Players that had joined the military were sent to USC for technical training were permitted to play. This was how Elroy "Crazy Legs" Hirsch played for Wisconsin one season and Michigan the next. If you get to watch film of the game Tennessee is clearly out talented.

 

[Boca Vol]

One other mistake, Tennessee played in two Rose Bowls losing both.

On 1 Jan 1940 Tennessee lost 14-0 to USC. I believe George Cafego suffered a severe ankle injury against Citadel that was still affecting him on New Year's Day.

On 1 Jan 1945 Tennessee lost 25-0 to USC, again. USC was a military training school during WW2. Players that had joined the military were sent to USC for technical training were permitted to play. This was how Elroy "Crazy Legs" Hirsch played for Wisconsin one season and Michigan the next. If you get to watch film of the game Tennessee is clearly out talented.

Was that a mistake or omission?

 

[tvolsfan]

by placing all the blame on Dooley and saying that the lack of depth and talent is an just an excuse when its the truth. the jury is still out on Dooley but to say its all his fault is asanine.

Talent and depth were issues. It is true. However, that's an excuse for going 7-5, not 5-7.

 

[tango]

For my fellow Volunteer historians this is a GREAT read....

SEC coaching rivalries: Robert Neyland vs. Frank Thomas, 1931-1946

Best quote from Neyland:

General Neyland famously said once:

“You never know about a player until he has played against Alabama.”

Interesting. My bama buddy has told me more than once that Bear Bryant was quoted as saying:

"You measure yourself as a man when you play Tennessee"

..or something along those lines...

 

[bamawriter]

After a few games into a season in the early sixties, when Bryant has several awesome team, he was asked to give his thoughts on how good his team was. Bryant responded "I have no idea. We haven't played Tennessee yet."

 

[ob79]

bump.

Good read, one year later--especially given it's Bama-week.