Great Quote From Calipari

[Delmar]

Got to give Cal credit. He’s full of BS but he can come up with a good one from time to time. “Guys with beards using their NIL for their first wife’s alimony.”

 

[The Original Fade]

Forgive me for not being sympathetic to anyone complaining about NIL, it’s what everyone wanted and celebrated when courts approved and now the same people moan about the consequences.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Forgive me for not being sympathetic to anyone complaining about NIL, it’s what everyone wanted and celebrated when courts approved and now the same people moan about the consequences.

And the same people sat by and watched college sports become a huge billions of dollars business and didn't seem to have a problem with any of it or least not THAT big of one, but NOW think it's gone too far. Like that train left the station decades ago.

*Not to say there doesn't need to be some serious reform/guardrails put in; that's 100% the case.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

Forgive me for not being sympathetic to anyone complaining about NIL, it’s what everyone wanted and celebrated when courts approved and now the same people moan about the consequences.

I don’t really have an issue with NIL. I think it’s fine. I think a related issue, which Cal is alluding to, that sprung from NIL that most probably didn’t anticipate is this endless eligibility conundrum. Tennessee has benefited from it, sure. I just would prefer it go away. Chad Baker Mazara should not be playing college basketball at 26 years old. He’s just one of many examples. It’s ridiculous.

Pay the players. Let them reap the benefits of their hard work. But “students” shouldn’t be able to work the system to stay eligible for as long as they are now.

 

[VolunteerCeltic]

College sports are so out of whack these days, players are going to demand more NIL money to play in bowl games or else they will opt out, there is no loyalty to schools anymore, only loyalty to the benjamins.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

College sports are so out of whack these days, players are going to demand more NIL money to play in bowl games or else they will opt out, there is no loyalty to schools anymore, only loyalty to the benjamins.

It makes me want to follow the Ivy League and teams like Appy State and ETSU instead.

I wish that Army, Navy, and Air Force were the Bamas, Georgias, Clemsons, and Ohio States.

 

[Stoked]

Got to give Cal credit. He’s full of BS but he can come up with a good one from time to time. “Guys with beards using their NIL for their first wife’s alimony.”

Boohoo he's just salty he can't pay players under the table now. It's an even playing field for the most part. He has advantage over most still though with a massive check book from Tyson.

The mid major coaches who lose their best players every year should be the ones that complain, not him.

 

[esarmstrong]

It makes me want to follow the Ivy League and teams like Appy State and ETSU instead.

I wish that Army, Navy, and Air Force were the Bamas, Georgias, Clemsons, and Ohio States.

At one time, Army -- and to a much lesser extent, Navy -- was a college football "big boy". That changed after the 1950's. NIL will also impact the landscape of football in dramatic and unforeseen ways.

 

[The Original Fade]

I don’t really have an issue with NIL. I think it’s fine. I think a related issue, which Cal is alluding to, that sprung from NIL that most probably didn’t anticipate is this endless eligibility conundrum. Tennessee has benefited from it, sure. I just would prefer it go away. Chad Baker Mazara should not be playing college basketball at 26 years old. He’s just one of many examples. It’s ridiculous.

Pay the players. Let them reap the benefits of their hard work. But “students” shouldn’t be able to work the system to stay eligible for as long as they are now.

If college players become official employees of the school then get ready for endless eligibility and and requirement to actually attend class and even be enrolled be struck down. The case will be made in court that since they are employees of the school it is unfair and discriminatory to require them to go to attend class in order to be paid while other employees of the university do not have to attend class as a condition of employment.

 

[volunator]

Won't that hurt the players trying to get their doctorate?

 

[cardvolfan]

I don’t really have an issue with NIL. I think it’s fine. I think a related issue, which Cal is alluding to, that sprung from NIL that most probably didn’t anticipate is this endless eligibility conundrum. Tennessee has benefited from it, sure. I just would prefer it go away. Chad Baker Mazara should not be playing college basketball at 26 years old. He’s just one of many examples. It’s ridiculous.

Pay the players. Let them reap the benefits of their hard work. But “students” shouldn’t be able to work the system to stay eligible for as long as they are now.

NIL itself is totally out-of-control. It was never meant to be pay-for-play, but it is. When 18-year-olds can become multi-millionaires with a 10-second signature, the system is broken. “Pay the players.” “Everyone deserves a piece of the pie.” “It’s only fair.”

The consequences of what is happening today are dire. Money is not unlimited. The hurricane is coming…maybe not today or tomorrow, but it’s coming.

I‘m not against athletes receiving money for a true form of NIL, but the current situation as it stands is unsustainable.

 

[a vol n tears]

Ask a student (parent) who pays thousands each year for school and books, then housing, food, tutoring if needed, and see if athletes weren‘t already being compensated with everything free. If a player is really good(very few are) they can earn a scholarship with that talent, then move to the league and make life changing money. A high school athlete shouldn’t make life changing money immediately. Very, very few in the real world starts making 6 figure salaries upon graduation. Even with NIL, and I hate it, they should show they deserve it before just handing it to them. Was Nico worth $2M as a Fr just to play a few meaningless downs, was Cater worth whatever he negotiated for, maybe even ask, was Joey worth $1M for an 8-4 season?

 

[DooleyOrangePants]

It makes me want to follow the Ivy League and teams like Appy State and ETSU instead.

I wish that Army, Navy, and Air Force were the Bamas, Georgias, Clemsons, and Ohio States.

ETSU and Appy have the same issues, just on a smaller scale. And every flash of talent from a player means you KNOW they are gone - instead of hoping they will stay.

 

[cncchris33]

Got to give Cal credit. He’s full of BS but he can come up with a good one from time to time. “Guys with beards using their NIL for their first wife’s alimony.”

I see Cal's, "We're young" excuse followed him to Fayetteville from Lexington. That was his favorite crutch every year at Kentucky, too. Go recruit some of thise 25 year olds, Cal. They're available to everyone, now.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Cal with the great quip. It's funny and true to a certain extent. Regardless, Cal is a great freaking coach. The narrative from some that he isn't a great coach is laughable. It's remarkably tough to apply glue to a new group of players every year. He took that route when he got to UK. Before that he took UMass to a final four by developing young players for a collegiate career. He has a BUNCH of guys who have flourished in the NBA who almost all give him a ton of credit and genuinely love him

 

[Voltopia]

Forgive me for not being sympathetic to anyone complaining about NIL, it’s what everyone wanted and celebrated when courts approved and now the same people moan about the consequences.

I didn't want NIL, and I've been complaining about the unintended consequences of it long before it started. It was obvious from a million miles away what was going to happen. I also come from the "take it or leave it" school, where I thought the schools should offer the full athletic scholarship rides, and if that plus the perk of being the biggest dogs on campus wasn't good enough, then thank you and have a nice day. Unfortunately, the schools pissed in that pool with a dizzying spiral of exorbitant media contracts and coaching salaries. That hypocrisy really turned opinion against them. If only they'd kept coaching pay normalized and used that money to fund student-athlete healthcare after college. Tsk tsk.

Of course, I also didn't want the schools to sell out for giant bags of money, and didn't want to see ESPN and FOX swallow up college sports. I've been griping about the corporate creep disfiguring college athletics all the way back to the BCS days. But as I've said before, the Million Dollar Man was right. Everybody's got a price.

 

[EasternVol]

It makes me want to follow the Ivy League and teams like Appy State and ETSU instead.

I wish that Army, Navy, and Air Force were the Bamas, Georgias, Clemsons, and Ohio States.

Appy State's chasing the big bucks as much as anyone, which to me is unfortunate. I guess it fits WNC's model of economic development though.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Appy State's chasing the big bucks as much as anyone, which to me is unfortunate. I guess it fits WNC's model of economic development though.

One difference is that the big conference members are getting or can get the lion’s share of the ESPN, Fox, and ABC/NBC/CBS dollars.

With the Appy States the economics are reset to about 30 years ago when the Majors, Mears, Dickeys, and Devoes were just regular members of the community. Their kids went to public schools. Their wives went to grocery stores. Coach might belly up to a bar or have dinner at the next table. The simple life.

 

[Delmar]

Boohoo he's just salty he can't pay players under the table now. It's an even playing field for the most part. He has advantage over most still though with a massive check book from Tyson.

The mid major coaches who lose their best players every year should be the ones that complain, not him.

I don’t think he minds paying players. I think he’s complaining about 25 year old guys milking the system for several years. That’s one downside to the current system that I don’t believe was thought out.

 

[a vol n tears]

I don’t think he minds paying players. I think he’s complaining about 25 year old guys milking the system for several years. That’s one downside to the current system that I don’t believe was thought out.

Speaking of older players. My question is for all college sports, but particularly basketball because the league rosters are small and talent is crucial. Why can’t the good - very good athletes continue taking college courses, sue the NCAA saying they are interfering in their ability to make a living by restricting the number of years an athlete can play. Lots of college talent that will not translate to pro level can just continue to play and improve until they are tired of taking courses. Ziegler, Pavia, and others can earn more playing college than moving to work in the real world.

 

[sami]

NIL itself is totally out-of-control. It was never meant to be pay-for-play, but it is. When 18-year-olds can become multi-millionaires with a 10-second signature, the system is broken. “Pay the players.” “Everyone deserves a piece of the pie.” “It’s only fair.”

The consequences of what is happening today are dire. Money is not unlimited. The hurricane is coming…maybe not today or tomorrow, but it’s coming.

I‘m not against athletes receiving money for a true form of NIL, but the current situation as it stands is unsustainable.

Oh, it's sustainable. Problem is that it's going to kill college sports as we once knew it. That train has already left the station and will only pick up speed until the whole thing implodes.

 

[BreatheUT]

I don’t really have an issue with NIL. I think it’s fine. I think a related issue, which Cal is alluding to, that sprung from NIL that most probably didn’t anticipate is this endless eligibility conundrum. Tennessee has benefited from it, sure. I just would prefer it go away. Chad Baker Mazara should not be playing college basketball at 26 years old. He’s just one of many examples. It’s ridiculous.

Pay the players. Let them reap the benefits of their hard work. But “students” shouldn’t be able to work the system to stay eligible for as long as they are now.

College sports is a mess.

 

[rocketskates]

I don’t really have an issue with NIL. I think it’s fine. I think a related issue, which Cal is alluding to, that sprung from NIL that most probably didn’t anticipate is this endless eligibility conundrum. Tennessee has benefited from it, sure. I just would prefer it go away. Chad Baker Mazara should not be playing college basketball at 26 years old. He’s just one of many examples. It’s ridiculous.

Pay the players. Let them reap the benefits of their hard work. But “students” shouldn’t be able to work the system to stay eligible for as long as they are now.

Don’t mind NIL, we just signed a great recruiting class probably mostly due to NIL. My issue is with the portal. There needs to be a way for NIL to accompany commitments. Maybe you can’t transfer for 2 years or you’ll forfeit a percentage of the money?