Grand Jury to hear Johnson / Williams case (Merged)

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This will likely go to court. The old saying "you can indict a ham sandwich" tells you what history thinks of Grand Jury's. If the DA wants it, they will get it truth be damned.
 
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OrangeMound said:
How is the grand jury even involved if they haven't been formally charged or even indited?
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The grand jury listens to the evidence to determine if there is enough to indict. The theory is to let an impartial group decide in instances where the evidence may be weak or the situation is highly political. The DA can be accused of being too zealous or turning a blind eye. The grand jury is supposed to eliminate that concern.
 
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ToptheTerrible said:
This will likely go to court. The old saying "you can indict a ham sandwich" tells you what history thinks of Grand Jury's. If the DA wants it, they will get it truth be damned.
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I clicked the like button on accident. It sounds like something a person in prison would say.
 
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It's been my experience that if it's close at all most grand juries will indict. That's why when you see high profile incident where the juries don't indict there's usually not even close to enough evidence to go to trial....those cases are usually blown up in the media, special interest groups, etc.., but when REAL testimony is presented it falls flat .,,,
 
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volKano said:
I clicked the like button on accident. It sounds like something a person in prison would say.
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It's a quote from the chief judge of the New York Court of Appeals. He ended up in prison, so I guess you are half-correct!
 
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ainge10heisman said:
I still believe they are innocent. Hopefully the grand jury doesn't find significant evidence and they don't indict them.
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I suppose you are basing this statement on your knowledge of the facts of the case? Because if not, its probably best to let the facts come out before jumping to conclusions that can make you seem foolish.
 
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McDad said:
A Grand Jury hears the evidence and decides if the case warrants a trial, correct? If they indict, he goes to trial. If not, it's over. Is this right?
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Not necessarily. The government can continue to send the case to the next grand jury until they get an indictment. Typically they don't, but double jeopardy doesn't attach until a petit jury is sworn.
 
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wfd53 said:
The grand jury listens to the evidence to determine if there is enough to indict. The theory is to let an impartial group decide in instances where the evidence may be weak or the situation is highly political. The DA can be accused of being too zealous or turning a blind eye. The grand jury is supposed to eliminate that concern.
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Its great in theory, but in practice it is so absolutely one sided as to almost guarantee an indictment.
 
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if the grand jury indicts ( and im saying they will ) expect plea bargan and guilty pleas from this pillar of society surprised this is even still being discussedaround here
 
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mashie said:
if the grand jury indicts ( and im saying they will ) expect plea bargan and guilty pleas from this pillar of society surprised this is even still being discussedaround here
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We all know you dislike AJ but most of us enjoyed his time here at Tennessee and hope that this incident didn't occur.

I also read early that AJ'S lawyer is very optimistic that nothing will come of this. Tifwiw.
 
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It's nothing more than a fishing expedition at this point. The police did an investigation and they couldn't find anything worthy to file charges on. The police then sent everything they gathered to the DA who reviewed all the info and evidence and still couldn't find anything worthy of bringing charges. The other female witness who was IN THE ROOM at the time of the alleged rape pretty much said, "that girl is crazy", by just leaving town and going back home to FL and not giving it a second thought.

Nothing here to see folks.
 
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Coug said:
It's nothing more than a fishing expedition at this point. The police did an investigation and they couldn't find anything worthy to file charges on. The police then sent everything they gathered to the DA who reviewed all the info and evidence and still couldn't find anything worthy of bringing charges. The other female witness who was IN THE ROOM at the time of the alleged rape pretty much said, "that girl is crazy", by just leaving town and going back home to FL and not giving it a second thought.

Nothing here to see folks.
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It is highly unlikely that the grand jury doesn't indict. I can say that without knowing any of the details of the case.

A true bill, therefore, isn't necessarily an indication of the likelihood of a conviction. That's a whole other story...
 
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daj2576 said:
It is highly unlikely that the grand jury doesn't indict. I can say that without knowing any of the details of the case.

A true bill, therefore, isn't necessarily an indication of the likelihood of a conviction. That's a whole other story...
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So, What you're saying is; The grand jury is more than likely going to indict even without you knowing the case details?

Just clearing this up for anyone who finds this post confusing.
 
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rocktopper16 said:
So, What you're saying is; The grand jury is more than likely going to indict even without you knowing the case details?

Just clearing this up for anyone who finds this post confusing.
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I can see how that would be confusing.

I'm saying that a case that goes before a grand jury is an almost sure indictment; the grand jury is essentially a rubber stamp.

If you were given a chance to bet on every case that goes to the GJ, bet on an indictment. While you wouldn't win them all, you'd end up very wealthy*.

*This is not intended to be legal or gambling advice. ;)
 
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Has anyone ever gone to trial without ever being officially charged with a crime? My understanding is these guys have never even been booked or processed, only questioned.
 
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If a true bill is given, I would imagine that a significant amount of evidence is present.....some grand juries want more and others allow less. As usual, we will just have to wait and see.
 
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rocktopper16 said:
So, What you're saying is; The grand jury is more than likely going to indict even without you knowing the case details?

Just clearing this up for anyone who finds this post confusing.
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DAs don't go to Grand Juries without a case most of the time.
 
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