Gotta love the Lane Kiffin Class

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tvolsfan said:
I don't understand how people have trouble with this. The way it is now, people are optimistic about the near future. It certainly wouldn't be that way if Fulmer was here for another year.
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If MH had hired CDD after Fulmer then we would be in the 3rd year of rebuilding and probably talking about competing for the SEC. He would have been coming off LT's best year in decades so some of that chatter would have been muted.

Instead, they hired Kiffin. Fulmer should have been gone. Kiffin should have never been hired.
 
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sjt18 said:
If MH had hired CDD after Fulmer then we would be in the 3rd year of rebuilding and probably talking about competing for the SEC. He would have been coming off LT's best year in decades so some of that chatter would have been muted.

Instead, HE hired Kiffin. Fulmer should have been gone. Kiffin should have never been hired.
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I'm with you, baby. FIRE....MIKE....HAMILTON!!! :rock::rock::rock:
 
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Mr.Fister said:
well he had to pay a buyout to leave...you can blame that on your athletic director for signing him to a loose contract that allowed him to leave. say what you want but at least he had the vols on espn everyday. a lot like he has usc on espn all the time. i dont like kiffin but we could win every game but if nobody cares what have we accomplished?
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the only thing i want the vols on espn everyday for would be for winning not the crap we were on there for with kiffin, and as far as my ad hamilton is not the guy i want running my athletic dept.
 
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Mr.Fister said:
theres not a tn fan on this board..unless they were a fulmerite..that would have said kiffin was a bad hire before he left tn. just because he left everybody hates on him. he went to one of the best teams in the country to coach in sunny california. i dont blame him.
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not so fast,some folks hated him from day 1
 
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posivol said:
not so fast,some folks hated him from day 1
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And most people were in a wait and see mode, which is reasonable. I had only been won over by his recruiting, not his coaching, and certainly not his way of running the program. The guy acted like a fool off the field, flat out broke rules that he thought didn't matter, and his in game coaching reminded me of a PeeWee coach. Now it seems like his recruiting prowess was very much overstated.

As for Bray, he wasn't even in Kiffins top 5 QB's that he wanted. These people need to quit acting like Kiffin did this supreme talent evaluation of Bray and then absolutely had to have Bray. Let's not forget that the master recruiter Kiffin was in the position to steal a QB from San Diego State because he wiffed on every single other QB that he tried to get.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
As for Bray, he wasn't even in Kiffins top 5 QB's that he wanted. These people need to quit acting like Kiffin did this supreme talent evaluation of Bray and then absolutely had to have Bray. Let's not forget that the master recruiter Kiffin was in the position to steal a QB from San Diego State because he wiffed on every single other QB that he tried to get.
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So how far does that put Bray from USC? Kind of like the 6 degrees of separation thing....Bray was the 6th choice of USC's 5th choice for head coach.

MIND. BLOWN. I like Bray...just sayin.
 
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Mr.Fister said:
ok you can say what you want about kiffin being a crappy coach but you need to blame this loss on the offensive line and running back for not being able to gain 1 yard..they had 4th and goal on the 1 to win the game and they couldnt get it done.
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Not when UCLA that season was only good at 1 thing -- stopping run plays up the middle, and what do we do? Try a run play up the middle with our injured guard and walk-on center against their NFL DT. That's called coaching stupidity extraordinaire.
 
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#88
I hate Lane Kiffin but, It was not all bad...He did leave us Chaney and Thompson!
 
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VegasVol said:
Not when UCLA that season was only good at 1 thing -- stopping run plays up the middle, and what do we do? Try a run play up the middle with our injured guard and walk-on center against their NFL DT. That's called coaching stupidity extraordinaire.
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well you can call it what you want but they had at least 2-3 plays where they only needed 1-2 yards to win the game.
 
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tvols75 said:
Bray came here because of Jim Chaney as has been noted by his dad and by Bray.
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Incorrect. Bray came to UT because of Kiffin. Bray didn't leave because Chaney stayed. There's a big difference between what you posted and what I posted. Nobody wants to understand that.
 
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#91
Unless you guys have a hot tub time machine it's moot but I'll say that like him or not Kiffin was the burning mattress that showed us what we didn't want and what we really value. My point is we do a poor impersonation of the Auburn's and USC's of the world in having our dirty laundry aired. Some fanbases are fine with it, if polled I'd guess most UT fans are too conservative to stomach it. It's the reason DD is more appealing now even with 2 silly losses and another so so recruiting effort.
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VegasVol said:
Not when UCLA that season was only good at 1 thing -- stopping run plays up the middle, and what do we do? Try a run play up the middle with our injured guard and walk-on center against their NFL DT. That's called coaching stupidity extraordinaire.
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Right. Putting the game on the shoulders of Crompton worked out fantastically the year before.
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SamRebel35 said:
As for Bray, he wasn't even in Kiffins top 5 QB's that he wanted. These people need to quit acting like Kiffin did this supreme talent evaluation of Bray and then absolutely had to have Bray. Let's not forget that the master recruiter Kiffin was in the position to steal a QB from San Diego State because he wiffed on every single other QB that he tried to get.
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We went after Jake Heaps. He'll be a bad ass but he's a Mormon and wanted to go toBYU. Then we went for Scroggins but lost him to local USC despite Sabanocchio writing him a love letter. Next up was Bray.
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kptvol said:
We went after Jake Heaps. He'll be a bad ass but he's a Mormon and wanted to go toBYU. Then we went for Scroggins but lost him to local USC despite Sabanocchio writing him a love letter. Next up was Bray.
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I'm no recruiting guru but we also passed on Cam, but we still may end up with sanctions before AU does. I'll say one thing about Kiffin he was a crappy cheater. If your going to bring trouble on the school at least bring success while doing so.
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VegasVol said:
Not when UCLA that season was only good at 1 thing -- stopping run plays up the middle, and what do we do? Try a run play up the middle with our injured guard and walk-on center against their NFL DT. That's called coaching stupidity extraordinaire.
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Fairly certain that Price was out of the game on 4th down and possibly even on 3rd down.
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sjt18 said:
Is that all you have out of all those failures by Kiffin? One guys who just happens to still be on the team trying to get good enough to contribute?

Let's put it this way... I know starry eyed Kiffin idolizers struggle with reason.... Kevin Revis may never contribute significantly for UT other than scout teams however he has a 100% greater likelihood of contributing than most of Kiffin's 09 stars- Brown, Nuke, Askew, etc.

You all act as if stars are all that matter and Kiffin is an infallible, "greatest of all time" recruiter. The fact is he brought 11 4/5* players in 09 and only 4 of them remain on the roster. Maybe he should have looked at character a little harder... woops, he'd be like the guy on Billy Madison trying to answer the Business Ethics question, huh? I guess he could recognize character by looking for kids unlike himself.
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Bryce Brown accomplished more at Tennessee than Revis can dream of. Back to the character assassination, I'm not sure how he's supposed to do a background check on guys in such a short time period. He walked into a situation with no quality players committed and had less than two months to try to change that. Guys like Eric Berry aren't coming to Tennessee with only six weeks to recruit.
 
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kptvol said:
We went after Jake Heaps. He'll be a bad ass but he's a Mormon and wanted to go toBYU. Then we went for Scroggins but lost him to local USC despite Sabanocchio writing him a love letter. Next up was Bray.
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Andrew Hendrix? Tommy Reese? Robert Marve? Nick Montana? Blake Bell? Chase Rettig? You've managed to gloss over a lot of names that Kiffin wanted before he ever offered Bray.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Andrew Hendrix? Tommy Reese? Robert Marve? Nick Montana? Blake Bell? Chase Rettig? You've managed to gloss over a lot of names that Kiffin wanted before he ever offered Bray.
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Marve wasn't an option. If he were we'd have taken him and Bray, but not Simms. Rees was a target after Bray was landed. We didn't go after Hendrix hard and never went after Montana. Blake Bell never showed interst and wasn't seriously pursued. We quit recruiting Rettig fairly early on.

There weren't many quality freshman QBs out there last year we targeted a bunch and got the best one that we could have.
 
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It was discussed ad nauseum in the recuiting forum that we really backed into Bray and lucked up he got hot late. I've yet to see the contrary. Also Kiffin himself admitted he shifted on Cam Newton. If Kiffin's claim to fame is recruiting and at this point I'd say it's his only claim he certainly had a house of cards here that doesn't spell SUCESS without adding a K and losing less letters than players.
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