Got to get Croom involved in Athens

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sjt18 said:
I respect you but just don't think that's what UT needs from Bray. Anyone who is open needs to become #1. Use Hunter as a diversion. Surprise UGA with one of the guys who hasn't posted big numbers yet. I like Rivera but not nearly as much as Downs. If Downs is healthy... throw him the stinking ball. Line both Lane and Neal up in the backfield then motion Neal out... he's proven he can go deep and catch the ball.

Do ANYTHING but let Bray try to force the ball into JH, CP, or MR against a talented secondary. If these other receivers start hurting UGA then you'll get bigger plays from JH and CP. But as we sit, DC's know how to defend Bray. The ones who have talented DB's have proven they can limit and beat him.
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We're on the same page I agree he's got to spread it around to free those guys up. Guess all I mean is if everything goes as it should our playmakers will rank out like they are supposed to and not 5x more looks to JH.
 
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sjt18 said:
Croom is a very good player. Two years ago... he'd have been a starter.

Devrin is not slow by any stretch of the imagination.

Watson is young but has great speed and decent size.

Howard looks like a good player as well.


There's plenty of talent. They have to play to potential and have to be coached well.

But all of this is moot if Bray does not learn to find the open guy.
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Que Watson is not an SEC running back and never will be. He is a 2 star running back that nobody else wanted. Dooley loves the guy for some reason maybe he just wants to prove he can find a diamond in the rough. Watson had 10 yards on 8 carries against Akron. Not Florida or even NCST but Akron. I don't mean to knock the kid personally as he seems like a great kid but he just doesn't belong in the SEC at running back anyway.
 
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#79
this isn't the BigXII guys

I'd like to see him on the field too, but that style of ball gets gassed quick in the SEC.
 
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GLDunlap said:
Que Watson is not an SEC running back and never will be. He is a 2 star running back that nobody else wanted. Dooley loves the guy for some reason maybe he just wants to prove he can find a diamond in the rough. Watson had 10 yards on 8 carries against Akron. Not Florida or even NCST but Akron. I don't mean to knock the kid personally as he seems like a great kid but he just doesn't belong in the SEC at running back anyway.
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He was a 3 star on every recruiting service. He is also just a Freshman, not sure why you are going on this tangent.
 
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GLDunlap said:
Que Watson is not an SEC running back and never will be. He is a 2 star running back that nobody else wanted. Dooley loves the guy for some reason maybe he just wants to prove he can find a diamond in the rough. Watson had 10 yards on 8 carries against Akron. Not Florida or even NCST but Akron. I don't mean to knock the kid personally as he seems like a great kid but he just doesn't belong in the SEC at running back anyway.
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Que is a burner. If we gonna take a gamble recruiting, do it to add some speed. We too slow.
 
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vols22 said:
Agree with OP. When you have a big guy like McCullers you have to use him. Play your defense, dont change who plays for them, maybe just the scheme. He could have been causing problems all night for their QB. Just not smart coaching IMO. As far as Croom goes, we do need some guys to step up even it is Freshman. Who cares what year as long as they are talented and can play.
NOW, the RB position. Marlin Lane should be playing hands down. He can run more aggresive and make people miss much better than Neal. He fumbled in the Florida game I think and didn't get much time since. Neal has fumbled also, as long as Lane doesn't show a habbit of it he should be the guy IMO.
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You cannot play McCullers against a spread team that wants to line up and get as many snaps off as possible in a game. They would have been snapping the ball and Big Dan would have been offsides all night long. Did anyone else not notice how many times Akron would snap the ball and we would not even be set on D, with Big Dan in there it would have been worse. That is not poor coaching, that is matching your defense up properly.
 
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Maybe a little different slant here, but asking some freshman to step in shows our lack of quality depth. I know that's an "old excuse" but it is true. Our starters are pretty good overall. It's a problem rotating them in and out because there is still a big drip in key positions going in to the two deep.

That is where our rebuild is malfunctioning. We can blame whoevere, but the problem still exists.

I also hope bray can find his way through his progressions faster. Ga will pressure him and we can afford to throw away or force balls to the first read.
 
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Any one else notice bray needs to get CP more throws.Seems like he focuses on hunter to much
 
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GLDunlap said:
Que Watson is not an SEC running back and never will be. He is a 2 star running back that nobody else wanted. Dooley loves the guy for some reason maybe he just wants to prove he can find a diamond in the rough. Watson had 10 yards on 8 carries against Akron. Not Florida or even NCST but Akron. I don't mean to knock the kid personally as he seems like a great kid but he just doesn't belong in the SEC at running back anyway.
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I didn't say he was ready to play. He's fast, quick, and has good weight for a guy that short. Too early for you to write someone with those physical skills off.
 
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WesternNCVol said:
Maybe a little different slant here, but asking some freshman to step in shows our lack of quality depth. I know that's an "old excuse" but it is true. Our starters are pretty good overall. It's a problem rotating them in and out because there is still a big drip in key positions going in to the two deep.

That is where our rebuild is malfunctioning. We can blame whoevere, but the problem still exists.

I also hope bray can find his way through his progressions faster. Ga will pressure him and we can afford to throw away or force balls to the first read.
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Teams all over the country deal with the same problem. USCe is playing Fr... others across the SEC are doing so. A&M gave UF a better run depending on a Fr QB and Fr receivers.

This is no longer a "reason".... maybe an excuse but not a reason.
 
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sjt18 said:
Teams all over the country deal with the same problem. USCe is playing Fr... others across the SEC are doing so. A&M gave UF a better run depending on a Fr QB and Fr receivers.

This is no longer a "reason".... maybe an excuse but not a reason.
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It's a reason for sure. Yes all teams play a few impact freshman. We seem to rely on them as of late. Blame coaching turnover or blame Dooley. Blame whoever. Fact is we still don't have enough quality depth. Some of that is dooleys fault for not being able to land a big fish. Some of it is circumstantial based on coaching turnover the last 4 years.

We need a second string guy in every position that is sec ready if we want to compete with the best teams. We don't have that. No matter who the coaching staff is that has to be fixed sooner than later.

I feel like this group of assistants can recruit better than our last. If so and if they get a shot we should see improvement.
 
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OCIVol said:
Croom's hammy has been the problem. Doubt he is much of a factor this season.
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Hey OCI,

What gives with the med staff? They are hell on wheels with an acl, but muscle strains go on forever! Seriously, any clue?
 
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Don't understand the whole we can't play the frosh crap. If you got someone that gives you better shot of gaining an advantage use it. You don't see other teams in the SEC afraid to go with their younger kids (ie Gurley) or whining about depth. You go with what you got and sometimes they blossom right before your eyes. Come on Dooley make it happen!
 
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WesternNCVol said:
It's a reason for sure. Yes all teams play a few impact freshman. We seem to rely on them as of late. Blame coaching turnover or blame Dooley. Blame whoever. Fact is we still don't have enough quality depth. Some of that is dooleys fault for not being able to land a big fish. Some of it is circumstantial based on coaching turnover the last 4 years.

We need a second string guy in every position that is sec ready if we want to compete with the best teams. We don't have that. No matter who the coaching staff is that has to be fixed sooner than later.

I feel like this group of assistants can recruit better than our last. If so and if they get a shot we should see improvement.
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Point is... UT is no more dependent on Fr than most other SEC teams at this point. They have upperclass depth at most positions. Where UT does not have that depth is mostly at positions where you should be able to get young players ready quickly like WR.

UT currently lists 11 sophs/fresh in their 44 man two deep- no Fr starts. UF lists 18. USCe lists 23. Even Bama lists 20 underclassmen in their two deep.

Depth is not an excuse for the egg UT laid against UF.
 
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sjt18 said:
Point is... UT is no more dependent on Fr than most other SEC teams at this point. They have upperclass depth at most positions. Where UT does not have that depth is mostly at positions where you should be able to get young players ready quickly like WR.

UT currently lists 11 sophs/fresh in their 44 man two deep- no Fr starts. UF lists 18. USCe lists 23. Even Bama lists 20 underclassmen in their two deep.

Depth is not an excuse for the egg UT laid against UF.
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Quality depth could be or maybe it is failure to play our depth enough??? You can't run the starters wide open all game. You must mix in the two deep. It would be nice if a couple guys stepped up when their name gets called.

Lots of ways this could work out but that is where coaching come in. Building depth for the future is a great idea and red shirting helps. Sometimes you gotta win now and at all cost. Play the guys who can play ASAP.

We could take a guy who is not ready to get a lot of snaps and give him say 6-10 snaps a game. You get a few guys doing this and the ones get enough rest to stay in the fight for all four quarters.
 
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Do you have some sort of proof that the starters are getting too many reps? If I am not mistaken, UT is even subbing on the OL which is fairly uncommon.
 
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Jackson_Harris said:
Tyler trusts Justin more because he knows where he is going. CP and him aren't quite on the same page yet.
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this is it guys. QBs are gonna go to the players they are confident are going to be where they are supposed it be. Bray is no different in that regard. Even as a freshmen, he looked for Jones and Moore over Hunter and Rogers.. because they knew where to be
 
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PimpVol said:
That excuse is from Dooleys first two years.
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I would still say it was a legitimate reason for those first two years. But now you have Jrs with more actual game experience than most Srs. You have Sophs with Jr level experience. You have a lot of guys who have played alot of football. I do NOT buy that the talent differential between them and UF's underclassmen equates to a 17 pt margin. I wholly reject the idea that Muschamp should be able to get younger players ready mentally but Dooley and his staff cannot get theirs ready.

I want Dooley to make it. I want him to become a great UT coach. That IS the best solution for UT... but NOW is the time for proving it. He has the roster.
 
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sjt18 said:
Do you have some sort of proof that the starters are getting too many reps? If I am not mistaken, UT is even subbing on the OL which is fairly uncommon.
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hunter and Patterson had about 70 reps in the game against Florida. that was a definite issue..
 
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DD4ME said:
Unfortunately Rogers caught the dropsies at the end of the Akron game. He did have a remarkable catch over an Akron defender which a team like UGA would likely intercept or at least break up. I agree though Bray needs to be better and CP absolutely must see more catches. I'll restate the sentiment already posted though Rivera before Rogers is our number one concern for a number 3 option.
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To build on what an earlier poster said, our number one option is whoever is open.
 
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