GOP votes to sue Obama to require enforcement of a law they oppose

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You've got to be ****ing kidding me.

Boehner wants executive action from the President a day after suing the President for executive action.

My God this is hypocritical bull**** to the highest level:

“This situation shows the intense concern within our conference — and among the American people — about the need to ensure the security of our borders and the president’s refusal to faithfully execute our laws,” House Republican leaders said in a statement. “There are numerous steps the president can and should be taking right now, without the need for congressional action, to secure our borders and ensure these children are returned swiftly and safely to their countries.”
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/01/u...html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0
 
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alexmanu said:
The last time it ran into deficit was 2005 (which is very rare) and commissioners and providers balanced the books. It's pretty hard to run out of money when your budget is over £100 billion. In any case there is a £20 billion safety net.
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Why is it rare for the NHS to go into deficit? How does the NHS prevent overspending?

Massive shortfall in funding for NHS England

The chief economist at the Health Foundation, Anita Charlesworth, has pointed out that the health service in England has been able to make savings each year of around 2.5%; however, in order to cover this latest gap, the savings would need to rise to 6.5%. Ms Charlesworth says that the government should be very worried. There are concerns that trying to close this gap could see a reduction in both services and quality.
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therealUT said:
If Obama believes the ACA is good policy, then by delaying critical pieces of it until after the elections, isn't he (as well as the rest of the DNC) doing the exact same?

Oh noes! Logic!

In principle, I'm not necessarily against allowing extra time on and special rooms for exams for those that are to an extent mentally handicapped, unfortunately, individuals that are just morons, with no real medical excuse, like you LG seem to have gamed that system and must have been allowed weeks on end to finish both your law school exams and the bar.

When you run your ambulance chaser adds, to you alert the consumers (albeit in fine print) that you are a mental invalid?
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Things I don't do on this forum:

-Everything to get called out by TRUT like this.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Just as they wanted a delay in the mandate right before they were opposed to a delay in the mandate.
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They are about to get ROASTED for this. Not even getting an immigration bill (the ONE crisis they are SO worried about) done before recess? It's incredible. :eek:lol:
 
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Kingston Vol said:
They are about to get ROASTED for this. Not even getting an immigration bill (the ONE crisis they are SO worried about) done before recess? It's incredible. :eek:lol:
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No they aren't because the majority of us can see through gamesmanship.

The fools (look in the mirror) and LG are simply partisan loons.
 
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Boehner: "No, Ted, nothing's going on later. Go home and take a nap."

@LukeRussert
Hold those planes---special House #GOP Conference meeting at 3pm, could vote on border bill afterwards.
 
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alexmanu said:
Charlesworth is a scaremongerer employed by the Tory Health Minister idiot Jezza Hunt to fit his agenda. NHS budget is rising with inflation and savings are being made year on year. The Dept. of Health usually run a surplus.
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Well I know nothing about the British health system, but it seems although it may work in smaller European countries our population is so big it wouldn't be realistic to implement a similar program w out some serious consequences.
 
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alexmanu said:
Charlesworth is a scaremongerer employed by the Tory Health Minister idiot Jezza Hunt to fit his agenda. NHS budget is rising with inflation and savings are being made year on year. The Dept. of Health usually run a surplus.
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You didn't answer my question, how does your NHS prevent going into deficit?
 
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MG1968 said:
You didn't answer my question, how does your NHS prevent going into deficit?
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That wasn't your question but to answer it, the spending is controlled and overlooked by commissioners and providers and if they do go into the red, (rare) the government will add funding for the fiscal year and cuts will be made in the following year (this rarely happens).
 
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Vols520 said:
Well I know nothing about the British health system, but it seems although it may work in smaller European countries our population is so big it wouldn't be realistic to implement a similar program w out some serious consequences.
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Oh it's theoretically possible, size is not the issue. The issue is that much of US population has a general disdain for federal control of any major programs (especially health) and that corporate interests in the health sector are too secure. Obamacare is probably the best go-between that was possible.
 
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alexmanu said:
Oh it's theoretically possible, size is not the issue. The issue is that much of US population has a general disdain for federal control of any major programs (especially health) and that corporate interests in the health sector are too secure. Obamacare is probably the best go-between that was possible.
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But size is the issue. We have millions of people with literally zero in common. I

It's not like where we are Swedish and have nearly identical heritage.

So our size and diversity hurts to a degree.

It's never going to change.
 
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Vols520 said:
But size is the issue. We have millions of people with literally zero in common. I

It's not like where we are Swedish and have nearly identical heritage.

So our size and diversity hurts to a degree.

It's never going to change.
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I don't think diversity is the stumbling block in implementing a universal healthcare system. But there are many different systems that work that are not like the British system. German, Dutch and Japanese systems are reasonably good.
 
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alexmanu said:
Oh it's theoretically possible, size is not the issue. The issue is that much of US population has a general disdain for federal control of any major programs (especially health) and that corporate interests in the health sector are too secure. Obamacare is probably the best go-between that was possible.
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It's also hard to trust the government when you meet the people who work for the government and are incompetent.

And in terms of healthcare veteran care is a mess 100% created by the government.

The lack of faith is for a reason.
 
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alexmanu said:
I don't think diversity is the stumbling block in implementing a universal healthcare system. But there are many different systems that work that are not like the British system. German, Dutch and Japanese systems are reasonably good.
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For the record I think libertarians are idiots who have too much confidence in themselves but the Somalia comparison was kind of ridiculous.

It throws legit conversations into crazy talk immediately.
 
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alexmanu said:
Oh it's theoretically possible, size is not the issue. The issue is that much of US population has a general disdain for federal control of any major programs (especially health) and that corporate interests in the health sector are too secure. Obamacare is probably the best go-between that was possible.
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I wouldn't say all Americans. Yankees seem pretty darn willing to give their lives to the government.
 
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Vols520 said:
For the record I think libertarians are idiots who have too much confidence in themselves but the Somalia comparison was kind of ridiculous.

It throws legit conversations into crazy talk immediately.
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It's the only legit example of a libertarian state IMO, yeah it wasn't the best comparison but there are elements that would carry over.
 
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There is a difference between physicians and hospitals being employed by the government, versus physicians and hospitals being paid by the government on contract.

The latter is what we have with Medicare and Medicaid. Those beneficiaries seem reasonably happy.

The only industry marginalized by the single payor idea is the health insurance industry. They heavily lobby and contribute to both GOP and Dems to maintain their position as the processors of paying for health care.
 
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