Good article from Wes Rucker

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Its been reported. Hashed and rehashed. The media sees it. The fans see it. I believe the AD sees it. I'm almost certain the players now see it. This guy is a used car salesman. And he has sold his last lemon to us fans. Time for him to move on.
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Normally, I'm not a fan of Rucker, but this article is pretty good. I think he kept it PC for the most part, but you can read between the lines on where his mind is, like much of ours.

Rucker: Tennessee Vols football's Butch Jones running out of opportunities to miss
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Read it last night. How does Jones sit in front of these media guys today and try to explain this year with a straight face? In an ideal world, today's presser should be a resignation by Jones after a renegotiated buyout with UT's legal staff and admin. Probably not happening and that will say a lot to me. :mf_surrender:
 
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Butch and his apologists will continue to point to the close calls such as Saturday with the winning pass being dropped. But I'll point to the way butch coaches. There's a mountain of talent discrepancy between South Carolina and TN. Why we're we losing and in need of a desperation to begin with? Because of the way butch coaches. Even when it works out (like Georgia last season), that game should've never been close. We had about 7 players that were going to be drafted and they were starting a true freshman with a first year coach. Butch is just not a winner and has not cultivated a environment where our players are expected to come out of the gate swinging and put our foots on their throats
 
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I mean, he's right. Rucker is a tool, but he's right. Butch promises he will fix the issues, but there's no fix. There's no change at all. This is the same behavior of an addict who gets told he has a problem, doesn't really believe it, knows he messed up, says "i'll get it right this time," and yet, repeats the problem.

Butch is done. He has been arrogant and unwilling to change, and full of cliches and excuses and coach-speak. And honestly? While I HATE watching our players suffer and watching us lose like this, Butch deserves to go down with the ship he so arrogantly stuck with. He deserves to be humbled a bit if he is going to continue to do the same things that got him here. His system does work. His cliches don't work.

Just excited for the next chapter of Tennessee football to begin.
 
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chattavol420 said:
Butch and his apologists will continue to point to the close calls such as Saturday with the winning pass being dropped. But I'll point to the way butch coaches. There's a mountain of talent discrepancy between South Carolina and TN. Why we're we losing and in need of a desperation to begin with? Because of the way butch coaches. Even when it works out (like Georgia last season), that game should've never been close. We had about 7 players that were going to be drafted and they were starting a true freshman with a first year coach. Butch is just not a winner and has not cultivated a environment where our players are expected to come out of the gate swinging and put our foots on their throats
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that there is a huge "talent discrepancy" between UT and South Carolina? Is there? You'd have to be extremely familiar with the SC roster to make that point. I wouldn't make it. Everybody assume we are loaded with talent. We most definitely have serious offensive coaching issues, but talent and (lack of) experience issues are also involved--we just don't really know how much.

If I were Jones, I'd sack Scott immediately and hope there is another coach on his staff with some competence coaching an offense. Our offense has been an utter disaster this year.
 
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Butch has made a lot of changes--but the offense and passing game have been a problem since he arrived, and that he has not fixed it. You can't have QBs who can't run in a read-option system, and you can't hire an offensive coordinator who has no OC experience. He should have gone out and hired a top OC, given him the keys to the car, and got out of the way. I understand that he wanted to keep Scott happy--but coordinators have to be first-rate coaches, x's and o's guys, first and foremost. That's not what we've got in Scott. Just a lot of coaching /scheme issues on offense.
 
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cwbytruckers said:
Its been reported. Hashed and rehashed. The media sees it. The fans see it. I believe the AD sees it. I'm almost certain the players now see it. This guy is a used car salesman. And he has sold his last lemon to us fans. Time for him to move on.
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Couldn't disagree more, although maybe we have different views of what a used car salesman is. I have absolutely no doubt that Butch has put his heart and soul into this job. He may not be the coach we need to take us to the next level, but it's not because he's tried to sell us a bunch of lemons--at least give him credit for giving his all.
 
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Money shot:

If you want to win SEC championships, you’re probably going to need a new coach.

If you’re comfortable with being competitive against decent teams and occasionally winning a game you shouldn’t win, you don’t need a new football coach.
 
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VolRoger said:
Read it last night. How does Jones sit in front of these media guys today and try to explain this year with a straight face? In an ideal world, today's presser should be a resignation by Jones after a renegotiated buyout with UT's legal staff and admin. Probably not happening and that will say a lot to me. :mf_surrender:
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"Yeah, well, uhm, yeah, we were gonna spike the ball, cause, I believe we only lost a couple of seconds because we got lined up faaast; we were gonna clock the ball, but, again, uhhh, we liked the play call/we got the play call in and we were able to get the ball snapped; so, you know that had no-bearing on anything,"

and,

"well, did we not play a good football team? That's good football team; we got better (during off week); did we think about handing the ball to JK? Yes we did. Uhhhh, but, ... if you run the ball and you don't get it, then that's the final play and (then, rather than talking about 3-passes from the 2 yrd line) you're sitting in-here asking me why we handed the ball off."

I.E. -- you know, I was there during every practice in the off-week, and you guys only see a few minutes; and I know we had a chance of scoring either way with a hand off or a pass, and that you'd be here asking me why we didn't score, either if we handed it off or passed it, because it's you, the media, that just wanna focus on these plays and create fake news, but I'm focusing on the program and getting these kids better each week -- because, uhh, the best way to create the next genius is with the ones who'are already here; it's that simple.
 
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armchair said:
that there is a huge "talent discrepancy" between UT and South Carolina? Is there? You'd have to be extremely familiar with the SC roster to make that point. I wouldn't make it. Everybody assume we are loaded with talent. We most definitely have serious offensive coaching issues, but talent and (lack of) experience issues are also involved--we just don't really know how much.

If I were Jones, I'd sack Scott immediately and hope there is another coach on his staff with some competence coaching an offense. Our offense has been an utter disaster this year.
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I don't have to be that familiar with sc roster. I see our recruiting rankings I. The top 10 or so ever year and rarely ever see sc in the top 25. And why does everyone make the excuse that we're inexperienced. That's butchs fault for not getting younger players reps. It's his team. Bama has half the roster drafted every year but you'll never hear Saban complain about youth
 
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I am a butch supporter. However the article is dead on. First report wes has wrote I 100% agree with. Next Monday will be time to move on.
 
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The way it's going he won't be high on any power 5 team's list. Not going to get a power 5 job. Will land in a lesser conference where he belongs. Big boy football is not for him.
 
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