Good article by Clay Travis.

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Wow, C.T. seems to be spot on with this article.....:banghead2:
 
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Think he is right... yes we should of tested the waters for stephens so he could atleast say.. SEE I TOLD YOU. but crompton didn't screw up the Auburn game the MULTIPLE dropped passes screwed us over on that. Clay is right. But just don't really see any different outcome with pick nick
 
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Sounds like Travis is reacting like most people on this board.
 
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Auburn has decidedly more talent than Tennessee this season. While both teams had a 5-7 season last year, AU's losing season was an abnormally one bad year while UT's losing record was evidence of program in decline. Over the past 4 years, AU's winning percentage is 70% while UT's is 58%.

Put a mediocore QB on the UT roster and the Vols are 4-1 this year.
 
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eb=pain said:
Think he is right... yes we should of tested the waters for stephens so he could atleast say.. SEE I TOLD YOU. but crompton didn't screw up the Auburn game the MULTIPLE dropped passes screwed us over on that. Clay is right. But just don't really see any different outcome with pick nick
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Suppose you are a doctor and you had two options to treat a very ill patient. You know option A has the best chance for success and that option B is likely to do nothing, but your patient read on the internetthat option B is awesome. Do you go with option B so when the patient is on his death bed you can say, "told ya!"?
 
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I am not saying we go with NS.. I know thats a mistake but thats practically what everyone is calling for. Its my point that all that is at stake is not win if NS starts... NO its that kiffin would just be proving his point in the first place. I am not on the NS bandwagon. He would not succeed. It is an option to put him in sure. test the waters. but what 4? what good would it do.. there is no point people just want to see if its any different, but there is none thats all i was trying to say
 
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eb=pain said:
I am not saying we go with NS.. I know thats a mistake but thats practically what everyone is calling for. Its my point that all that is at stake is not win if NS starts... NO its that kiffin would just be proving his point in the first place. I am not on the NS bandwagon. He would not succeed. It is an option to put him in sure. test the waters. but what 4? what good would it do.. there is no point people just want to see if its any different, but there is none thats all i was trying to say
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A professional shouldn't feel the need to go against his better judgment to prove something to a bunch of non-professionals.
 
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Clay makes a few good points there. Kiffin is in a tough spot, i don't envy him. I really thought if we were going to see Stephens we'd have seen him in the Ohio game. Although unless he comes out and throws 3 picks in a row i can't see how giving him at least a try could hurt anything. I don't think this team will stay behind Jon all year and you can already see them becoming divided. I trust Kiffin will make the right call on this, although i really don't know what the right call is at this point. Tough spot and the schedule really doesn't lighten up for quite some time. Sucks right now, all the way around.
 
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CT is a writer, and a pretty good one at that.

he is not a football coach.

and he whiffed on TN having the highest paid coaching staff in the country. they don't even have the highest paid staff in the SEC.
 
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why do people no realize this thing is 3 years away ! people need to quit thinking ut is so high and mighty and realize this is one of the worst programs in college football that lane inherited !
 
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kptvol said:
Suppose you are a doctor and you had two options to treat a very ill patient. You know option A has the best chance for success and that option B is likely to do nothing, but your patient read on the internetthat option B is awesome. Do you go with option B so when the patient is on his death bed you can say, "told ya!"?
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That's a pretty poor parallel. In order to make it work you also must add that you have already been treating your patient for a year and a half with option A and in that year and a half there has been no success and in fact the patient is now sicker than when you started. Now, does that change the view on whether trying option B might be worthwhile?
 
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Travis like most who've been chanting the same mantra here has little to NO idea what is going on inside the program or why the decisions are being made as they are. Once again you get an arrogant critic calling CLK stubborn because he doesn't agree with THEM about what is wrong in UT's O.

Once again you see the lame excuse for the receivers that they don't have confidence in Crompton... without looking at the flip side. This WR group, especially the vets, have given Crompton ZERO reason to be confident in them. THERE IS a confidence problem but it GOES BOTH WAYS.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Auburn has decidedly more talent than Tennessee this season. While both teams had a 5-7 season last year, AU's losing season was an abnormally one bad year while UT's losing record was evidence of program in decline. Over the past 4 years, AU's winning percentage is 70% while UT's is 58%.

Put a mediocore QB on the UT roster and the Vols are 4-1 this year.
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Not unless you surround them with 4 or 5 "mediocre" WR's.
 
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The stubborn argument is stupid. Our coach is damn well aware that the QB position is losing ballgames for us. He also has the most at stake in the W-L column. He isn't making decisions to prove that he can work miracles or to bolster QB recruiting.
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rockytopper522 said:
why do people no realize this thing is 3 years away ! people need to quit thinking ut is so high and mighty and realize this is one of the worst programs in college football that lane inherited !
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The one thing Travis nailed is that Kiffin needs success and needs it early. I mean we are 5 games in and you have folks coming on here talking about him being a bad hire or about firing coaches. In as much as this place is reflective of those who follow the Vols closely, you'd expect some true Fulmer folks to dislike anyone that replaced him. You'd expect some people just to be hypercritical regardless.

However the treatment of Crompton by people on this board is only a foretaste of what you'll see regarding Kiffin if he finishes with a losing record this year then struggles out of the gate next year.... and both of those things are now distinctive possibilities.

He also made a good point that Kiffin needed to beat the UCLA's and Auburns this year. He hasn't gotten it done so far and that could spell trouble with the fanbase and media. Kiffin did a good job of getting UT talked about and thus on TV. If they continue to lose, they'll stop getting the TV exposure they need for recruiting.

There's some good stuff in the article once you wind your way through the QB stuff.

I'm not opposed to NS replacing JC btw. I want to see them win no matter who plays QB. However I do trust a guy whose future is tied to the success of the team to make a better, more reasoned decision than bloggers or sports writers... and if he doesn't? It is his head, not theirs.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
The stubborn argument is stupid. Our coach is damn well aware that the QB position is losing ballgames for us. He also has the most at stake in the W-L column. He isn't making decisions to prove that he can work miracles or to bolster QB recruiting.
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BPV, don't you know? He is playing us for a buyout and Crompton isn't playing for the win.

This site is in melt down mode. People need to get out and enjoy the weather
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Since this is a 3 year plan, wouldn't you want to start your qb for next year so he gets some playing time? or is this like the article stated...this is for recruiting bray and whoever else will come at the qb position and think they can start as a freshman...
 
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I've seen Nick play and I'd rather go with a true Freshman or JC transfer next year than Nick unless Nick can find a way to hugely improve his game.
 
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If Crompton can clear out his mental anxiety issues and get on the same page... or even the same book as our WRs he'll be a very good QB.

He's got a much better arm than Stephens. He doesn't help himself, but I'm adamant in stating that there has at least been improvement in his in-game judgment. The slow (not saying he's even on being a decent QB) but evident improvement is probably his only saving grace against replacement.

Plus, Crompton has much better pocket presents than Stephens has. Hopefully we'll adjust play-calling to bring our RBs into the passing game more.
 
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