Get Onboard if You're a VOL

#51
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foxxvol said:
To have a TEAM it requires 100% commitment from all involved. IMO there has not been 100% commitment from several current players and if I'm right, then they need to move on. I have 100% confidence in Coach Pruitt and his staff, and I'm standing shoulder to shoulder with them until AD Fulmer says it's time to pull the plug. I'm old and have been a season ticket holder since 1970, so this is not my first rodeo. I'M 100% VFL
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BeardedVol said:
Derek Dooley, 3-1 after 4 games in his second year, with a 42-16 win over Montana, 45-23 win over Cincinnati, 41-10 win over Buffalo, and a 33-23 loss to Florida

Butch Jones, 2-2 after 4 games in his second year, 38-7 win over Utah State, 34-19 win over Arkansas State, 34-10 loss to Oklahoma, and a 35-32 loss to Georgia

Jeremy Pruitt, 1-3 after 4 games in his second year, 38-30 loss to Georgia State, 29-26 loss to BYU, 45-0 win over UTC, 34-3 loss to Florida

Dooley and Jones had better second years than Pruitt will have by a large margin, and both ended up failing long term. Why is it that you believe Pruitt will somehow buck the trend?
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This. Is. Depressing.
 
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Behr said:
Players have said there are other players that needed to step or get out, (paraphrased) we've seen it on the field.

I remember you and DTO telling everyone how much stuff was going to come out about Butch and all the crap he was doing, and how he was just terrible. I'm not saying Pruitt isn't responsible in any way, but how can you you say there isn't any "leftover" culture from all that "Stuff" you said was there?

Yea, right this minute Pruitt ain't looking to hot, but I'm not blaming everything on him. There's parents out there that don't know how to make their on kids mind.

And don't turn that on me by telling me other coaches seem to be doing fine. I understand that and don't think Pruitt is without blame.
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Let me be perfectly consistent in this...I’ll take all of my preconceived distaste for Pruitt out of it. If Nick Saban was our head coach, I would still believe the buck stops at the HC’s desk. They are the professionals, the mercenary’s. When you make 7 or 8 figures, when you are able to leave if another job presents itself, you deserve that level of authority and responsibility.

No matter what the players are doing or not doing it falls on the head of the professional. It has to. These student athletes are learning football, and getting an education. Many are poor, and have only what is given them by their scholarship. If they can’t cut it, that scholarship exists at the discretion of the professional coach.

The point of my original post wasn't specifically about Pruitt...it was about those fans that hold the coach, any coach, blameless for the shortcomings of the team. They use the excuse of the poor talent of the players, the attitudes of the players, the uncoachability of the players etc. The OP laid the responsibility on the players, said he backed Pruitt 100% and would do so until Fulmer told him otherwise. I don’t understand that mindset, because coaches come and go...most players are here 4 years, and come back long after graduation. Isn’t that the point?
 
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'Boro-vol said:
I don’t understand that mindset, because coaches come and go...most players are here 4 years, and come back long after graduation. Isn’t that the point?
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Im not understanding this for some reason.
 
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foxxvol said:
To have a TEAM it requires 100% commitment from all involved. IMO there has not been 100% commitment from several current players and if I'm right, then they need to move on. I have 100% confidence in Coach Pruitt and his staff, and I'm standing shoulder to shoulder with them until AD Fulmer says it's time to pull the plug. I'm old and have been a season ticket holder since 1970, so this is not my first rodeo. I'M 100% VFL
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Behr said:
Im not understanding this for some reason.
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Most players, not all, that decide to come here spend 4 years on campus, graduate, and spend years coming back....visiting, giving back to the program, supporting the University. They are VFL’s....coaches typically aren’t. Fulmer and Majors aside.

Sorry...I didn’t form that thought well.
 
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Booker512 said:
Because he has a southern accent and says “aight” 40 times an hour and looks like he probably drives a pickup truck.

I’m not being an a$$ by saying that either. I’ve actually heard people say that’s when they knew he was our coach. 🙄
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Nah, but you are being one by constantly saying it in every single thread you possibly can. I'm upset too, but screeching about the situation as much as you can isnt going to change anything.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Nah, but you are being one by constantly saying it in every single thread you possibly can. I'm upset too, but screeching about the situation as much as you can isnt going to change anything.
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I’m bored. Slow day at work. 👍

My bad. I’ll slow down, thread police.
 
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foxxvol said:
To have a TEAM it requires 100% commitment from all involved. IMO there has not been 100% commitment from several current players and if I'm right, then they need to move on. I have 100% confidence in Coach Pruitt and his staff, and I'm standing shoulder to shoulder with them until AD Fulmer says it's time to pull the plug. I'm old and have been a season ticket holder since 1970, so this is not my first rodeo. I'M 100% VFL
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People may think they're giving 100%, when they're not...they limit themselves because the team thinks they're going to lose. Take a look at NY Giants. By all accounts, after 2 games, they were ranked as second worst team in football, with no direction. Defense was worse than the Giant's abysmal offense. Their post game interviews sounded very much like UT postgame...we're going back to work, working on correcting mistakes...everyone's committed to the process...everyone's doing what it takes to turn the tide...yada yada yada. Insert Daniel Jones, and all the sudden, everyone's play improved...even in the second half on D...BECAUSE, they could see they have a chance to win. That's what's happening with the Vols. Everyone thinks they're giving their all, but there's no straw stirring the drink.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Derek Dooley, 3-1 after 4 games in his second year, with a 42-16 win over Montana, 45-23 win over Cincinnati, 41-10 win over Buffalo, and a 33-23 loss to Florida

Butch Jones, 2-2 after 4 games in his second year, 38-7 win over Utah State, 34-19 win over Arkansas State, 34-10 loss to Oklahoma, and a 35-32 loss to Georgia

Jeremy Pruitt, 1-3 after 4 games in his second year, 38-30 loss to Georgia State, 29-26 loss to BYU, 45-0 win over UTC, 34-3 loss to Florida

Dooley and Jones had better second years than Pruitt will have by a large margin, and both ended up failing long term. Why is it that you believe Pruitt will somehow buck the trend?
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And Pruitt has better talent
 
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I bet there was a lot of folks who never thought the Titanic would sink........probably looking at those people getting in the lifeboats and saying things like "you guys are not real cruisers" "this boat is unsinkable" "our captain will never let this boat sink"
 
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BeardedVol said:
Derek Dooley, 3-1 after 4 games in his second year, with a 42-16 win over Montana, 45-23 win over Cincinnati, 41-10 win over Buffalo, and a 33-23 loss to Florida

Butch Jones, 2-2 after 4 games in his second year, 38-7 win over Utah State, 34-19 win over Arkansas State, 34-10 loss to Oklahoma, and a 35-32 loss to Georgia

Jeremy Pruitt, 1-3 after 4 games in his second year, 38-30 loss to Georgia State, 29-26 loss to BYU, 45-0 win over UTC, 34-3 loss to Florida

Dooley and Jones had better second years than Pruitt will have by a large margin, and both ended up failing long term. Why is it that you believe Pruitt will somehow buck the trend?
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Dooley and Jones had some good players when they came on board, especially on th Oline and at QB It didn't take long for both of them to bomb out to the bottom. Dooley ith one year when he did not sign a single O-lineman where Jones signed the best O-lineman in the country. However, that lineman has had very serious health problems which have hampered his performance. He other O-linemen signees have not yet set the world on fire. We now have two of the highest ranked O-linemen in the Naation who are just to beginning to learn their trade and a couple of others who are red shirts. Things will get better if given the chance. I not given the chance, It will take 5 more years rather than 2.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
Dooley and Jones had some good players when they came on board, especially on th Oline and at QB It didn't take long for both of them to bomb out to the bottom. Dooley ith one year when he did not sign a single O-lineman where Jones signed the best O-lineman in the country. However, that lineman has had very serious health problems which have hampered his performance. He other O-linemen signees have not yet set the world on fire. We now have two of the highest ranked O-linemen in the Naation who are just to beginning to learn their trade and a couple of others who are red shirts. Things will get better if given the chance. I not given the chance, It will take 5 more years rather than 2.
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Same story, different coach, Kiffin didn't leave Dooley enough talent, Dooley didn't leave Jones enough talent. Both of those guys had better second year records that Pruitt will have, and both were eventually fired for coaching ineptitude. Of course, Pruitt will be different in spite of taking his 5-7 2018 team, adding some talented freshmen, and going 1-11 or 2-10 in 2019, he'll get better unlike Jones or Dooley, because of reasons?

Pruitt has been here for 19 months now, and couldn't take the develop the current roster enough, and beat a 2-10 Sunbelt team at home, in the season opener. In spite of (idiotically) rotating 9 linemen against GSU, JG was protected with zero pressure for the first 55 plays of that game with little offensive production to show for it, he got plenty of protection against BYU, the oline is not the problem. Have you even watched our linebackers play? Pruitt, the vaunted defensive mind that is supposedly responsible for the 2013 FSU defensive success, and the 2014-2015 Georgia defensive success, can't manage to get his defensive line to line up correctly, and has fielded the worst linebacker corps that I've ever seen take the field at UT.

Are you really arguing that we don't have enough talent on the team to overcome the likes of Georgia State or the powerhouse that is BYU? That after 19 months, a defensive genius like Pruitt can't coach up the talent on the defensive side of the ball to look even remotely competitive?
 
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