Get a kick into the endzone!!!

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This makes me so mad year after year! When we finally bring in a few top notch kicking recruits who supposedly have great kicking legs, we go with the same clowns who cant kick it deep at all. Even though our kickoff coverage was great, a lot was due to Martin not being able to catch a kickoff. They were consistently catching them around the 15-20yd line. Can Palardy not put it in the endzone off the tee? I just get so sick of watching other teams all day have kickers booming kicks and we have what we have. Anyone else frustrated?
 
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Not happening this year. Even with Palardy. Everything I read from the summer/fall camp was saying that he was getting it past the ten and maybe the five but that was about it.
 
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I know that palardy has the leg to do it because I was watching him during halftime practicing and he was regularly doing it
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why is everyone making such a big deal about kicking the ball in the end zone? reality is, that from where college kicks off now, not that many kickers kick it in the freekin end zone !!!! its simple, go tackle the guy.
 
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Don't know if true or not had a guy tell me because we use Wilson balls and they are harder we give up about 5 yards. Does anyone know if this is fact?
 
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Why exactly DID Cunningham and Lincoln win the job over Palardy and Darr? I heard somewhere that Palardy had a lot of kicks blocked, never heard anything about Darr. What exactly happened? Thanks in advance.
 
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According to James Wilhoit, the ball UT uses which is the Wilson G2 or something like that, goes like 5 yards less than the Nike ball which lots of other schools use. No, I'm not kidding. He was on the sports monster the other day and he swears this is the case. I'm pretty sure he said UT is the only SEC school that uses the Wilson ball. He said he has proven it himself, and with Chad Cunningham. He said he worked with Cunningham this summer and had him try the Nike ball and the Wilson just to prove his point, and he said he was punting and kicking the Nike ball at least 5 yards further.
 
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Give_Him_6! said:
Don't know if true or not had a guy tell me because we use Wilson balls and they are harder we give up about 5 yards. Does anyone know if this is fact?
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James Wilhoit commented on that in his blog a few days back. He basically said that a nike ball will go about 7 yards further. Then on the radio on Friday he sort of backed off that statement and just said that the nike ball had a bigger sweet spot. He said that if you are hitting them good than the difference isn't noticeable.

IMO that is a pretty stupid comment. It's like hitting cavity back irons vs. blades. Yeah sure a blade works just as well if you are really good, but if you are average, the cavity back is more forgiving. Seems to me that I would want to kick the more forgiving ball.


click on Wilhoit's blog

http://www.jameswilhoitkickingcoach.com/
 
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VolsFanRJ said:
According to James Wilhoit, the ball UT uses which is the Wilson G2 or something like that, goes like 5 yards less than the Nike ball which lots of other schools use. No, I'm not kidding. He was on the sports monster the other day and he swears this is the case. I'm pretty sure he said UT is the only SEC school that uses the Wilson ball. He said he has proven it himself, and with Chad Cunningham. He said he worked with Cunningham this summer and had him try the Nike ball and the Wilson just to prove his point, and he said he was punting and kicking the Nike ball at least 5 yards further.
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I guess my question is when we play do we use the wilson and the other team use a different ball?
 
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10vol_15 said:
why is everyone making such a big deal about kicking the ball in the end zone? reality is, that from where college kicks off now, not that many kickers kick it in the freekin end zone !!!! its simple, go tackle the guy.
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+1
 
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teamdeke said:
This makes me so mad year after year! When we finally bring in a few top notch kicking recruits who supposedly have great kicking legs, we go with the same clowns who cant kick it deep at all. Even though our kickoff coverage was great, a lot was due to Martin not being able to catch a kickoff. They were consistently catching them around the 15-20yd line. Can Palardy not put it in the endzone off the tee? I just get so sick of watching other teams all day have kickers booming kicks and we have what we have. Anyone else frustrated?
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Cunningham was aiming for a certain spot between the 5 and 10 yard lines on Kickoffs. His kicks were high and were right in the same spot most of the time...what this did is pin the returner against the sideline and because of the height of the kickoff it allowed the special teams time to get to the returner before being able to get into a lane...

Had he kicked off into the end zone, there would be more of a chance of a return with many more options for the KR.

Check the game film and see if I am not right on ... CDD never mentioned being concerned about the kickoffs did he?
 
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10vol_15 said:
why is everyone making such a big deal about kicking the ball in the end zone? reality is, that from where college kicks off now, not that many kickers kick it in the freekin end zone !!!! its simple, go tackle the guy.
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Because when they are catching the ball at the 10 yd line, it's gonna lead to better field position and the ball is in the air slightly less time giving less time for our coverage team to get down the field as compared to catching the ball between the 5 yd line and the goal line
 
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yes but your also 10 yards closer to our defenders, and if he is kicking the ball high to a spot then kicking to the 10 is actually better than in the endzone! The only thing better would be sending it through the back of the endzone!
 
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Palardy and Darr are both freshman and are inconsistent. Darr is shanking a lot right now and Palardy isn't getting the distance that Lincoln has and is even kicking LOWER than Lincoln right now which would lead to more blocks. That's why they aren't playing. Lincoln and Cunningham are simply better right now. Deal with it.

Yankee_Vol said:
Because when they are catching the ball at the 10 yd line, it's gonna lead to better field position and the ball is in the air slightly less time giving less time for our coverage team to get down the field as compared to catching the ball between the 5 yd line and the goal line
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Not necessarily. If they kick it high and to the 5 or 10, it can actually be in the air more time giving our coverage unit more time to get in position to make a good tackle inside the 20. I realize the Martin KR had a bad case of drops, but he didn't drop EVERY kickoff and I do recall several times where he caught it cleanly and was tackled inside the 20. Doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
 
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I'm not gonna bash Lincoln unless he starts kicking like he did last year. Even Dooley said on his show yesterday that his PAT's and FG's were too low and they need to work on that all week. So lets wait and see, but he could be 100% on FG and PAT all season and you still ain't gonna see a kick off in the end zone unless Palardy comes in.
 
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Bloodrunsorange27 said:
If Palardy can add 5 yards to our kickoffs then he should be kicking off. Field position will be huge.
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They were kicking to that spot on purpose. They felt that they could pin them deeper than the 20 (which an endzone kick often gives them) If you paid attention, we pinned them inside the 20 more than we gave it to them past it.
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10vol_15 said:
why is everyone making such a big deal about kicking the ball in the end zone? reality is, that from where college kicks off now, not that many kickers kick it in the freekin end zone !!!! its simple, go tackle the guy.
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Well I'm not going to make a big deal of it, but it is ideal for a kicker to put it a few yards into the endzone so that he has a little futher to run out and gives our guys a little more time to get down there to make a tackle within the 10 yard line or less, as our kickers are putting it at about the 10 and running from there they are starting plays usually at the 25 or 30. If we hold them on the 10 for 4 downs then the opponent has to punt out of the endzone and usually average punt is 40 to 45 yrds, meaning we will start on our side of the 50 which improves chances of a score wheather TD or Field goal. My two cents on it.
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