Gerrymandering in Virginia

Has this war been an astonishing success? It has, fact. Is China pissing in their pants? Yes they are, fact. Has the future of the ME and the world order been changed? Yes it has, fact.
This war has not been won. The world is worse off than it was before the war started. That's fact, undeniable.

It remains to be seen whether that change is good or not. History has not been very kind to us on the back end of wars we've claimed victory in.

I don't see China doing anything other than what they have been the past 40 years. Making strategic long term deals and biding their time.
 
I would come over from Avery Co to eat at Subas. One of my good friends moms family is from Doe Valley
Right on. I lived closer to Laurel Bloomery most of the time I was there, but did move to Neva for a little while as well. Still the prettiest place I’ve ever lived. Could tell nostalgic stories for days about that place. I still come down when I can and stay in our family cabin (built in 1775 in Piney Flats, my family moved it log by log to it’s current spot on Iron Mountain in Laurel Bloomery in 1976) and spend time on Watauga Lake.
 
Are those citizens in the WHOLE state not using their voice when they elect their Senators. What if you are an Independent and you vote for a Democrat Congressman and a Conservative Senator or the other way around.
Hey I'm not staking my life on this but I don't think it's fair that 10 citizens in South Dakota have the same influence as 1000 citizens in California.
 
You should review the compromise between the little colonies and the big colonies. The union could not form until the smaller colonies were assured representation in government. Hence, the senate. This really needs to be taught again in schools.

I did learn that in school oh wise one. I simply don't agree with it. I don't expect donnie to seek my insight on this.
 
Oh I can almost guarantee that she will be. Republicans will nominate her just to expose democrat hypocrisy and expose their hidden racism. Same thing that happened in Virginia with governor‘s race. They gave the state a chance to actually elect a woman of color to the most powerful office in the state; but the virtue signaling white savior libs in the DC suburbs weren’t going to let that happen at all.
Why would you expect liberal Democrats in NoVa to vote for a very conservative Republican? It was the low turnout in the heavily Republican parts of the Commonwealth that cost her the election.
 
And wtf is a state then if not a group of citizens. You think the dirt in Alabama feels differently than the dirt in New Jersey?
a government that is largely able to choose the way they represent themselves.

There was always supposed to be give and take, we have the house to represent the people, and the senate to represent the state.

the idea was to keep either group, people or the government, from gaining too much power over the other.
 
This war has not been won. The world is worse off than it was before the war started. That's fact, undeniable.

It remains to be seen whether that change is good or not. History has not been very kind to us on the back end of wars we've claimed victory in.

I don't see China doing anything other than what they have been the past 40 years. Making strategic long term deals and biding their time.
If you want to really get it, look at the contrasts of Obomber's visit to China and the current President's. The Chinese totally shite all over Obomber and treated him like a clown. This time they roll out the red carpet and kiss Trump's azz. They know where the bear sits and who is their daddy.
Eastern cultures respect only power and strength. If you're not respected and/or feared you are nothing.
 
If you want to really get it, look at the contrasts of Obomber's visit to China and the current President's. The Chinese totally shite all over Obomber and treated him like a clown. This time they roll out the red carpet and kiss Trump's azz. They know where the bear sits and who is their daddy.
Eastern cultures respect only power and strength. If you're not respected and/or feared you are nothing.
They kiss his ass because they know that's how you get to him. It's not respect it's just about knowing your enemy. They're just making the dumbest guy in the room feel like he's the top dog and it's working
 
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They kiss his ass because they know that's how you get to him. It's not respect it's just about knowing your enemy. They're just making the dumbest guy in the room feel like he's the top dog and it's working
yeah, its an easy distraction to get what they want out of Trump.
 
They kiss his ass because they know that's how you get to him. It's not respect it's just about knowing your enemy. They're just making the dumbest guy in the room feel like he's the top dog and it's working
Whatever. Tell me how it is this dumbazz is winning on everything? How is that he solving all these so called unsolvable problems if he is a moron? Just look at the border. How long were we told that nothing could be done? Same with Iran, China, trade, industry, etc.
China is bowing and scraping, what exactly have they gotten? Their azz handed to them, that is what. They are probably lying through their teeth but they are getting pushed around. We control their oil, their trade, their lifeblood. We are their daddy.
 
a government that is largely able to choose the way they represent themselves.

There was always supposed to be give and take, we have the house to represent the people, and the senate to represent the state.

the idea was to keep either group, people or the government, from gaining too much power over the other.
I am fully aware,despite sugars and Hoggs believe, of what the intentions of creating a senate. I disagree. I am allowed to do that.
 
Whatever. Tell me how it is this dumbazz is winning on everything? How is that he solving all these so called unsolvable problems if he is a moron? Just look at the border. How long were we told that nothing could be done? Same with Iran, China, trade, industry, etc.
China is bowing and scraping, what exactly have they gotten? Their azz handed to them, that is what. They are probably lying through their teeth but they are getting pushed around. We control their oil, their trade, their lifeblood. We are their daddy.

I think you have that azz backwards.
 
I am fully aware,despite sugars and Hoggs believe, of what the intentions of creating a senate. I disagree. I am allowed to do that.
No one even implied that you aren't allowed to disagree. The point was you have your facts/assumptions wrong.

it was more clear what the distinction was before the 16 or 17th amendment. can't remember off the top of my head which made senators an election vs appointment, but it took a change to the constitution for that to come into effect, so there very clearly was a difference.
 
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I am fully aware,despite sugars and Hoggs believe, of what the intentions of creating a senate. I disagree. I am allowed to do that.

You can absolutely disagree and enough did disagree to get the abomination called the 17th amendment passed in 1912. We've paid dearly for that stupidity since.
 
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