Gerrymandering in Virginia

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Side note, siap, but Justin Fairfax, former Lt Gov of VA that was under scrutiny for sexual assault, murdered his wife and then killed himself last week. His kids were in the house when he did it. They were going through divorce proceedings. Didn't see a thread on him, so dropped it here.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Indeed I am. It sucks.

Not sure why anyone would choose to stay there. I know why my dad did. He was a successful criminal defense attorney. Business was great for him for about 40 years until he retired.
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I think you answered your own question. Also family is important to some folks. If my kids decide to move I would probably try to be close to them
 
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Jxn Vol said:
I think you answered your own question. Also family is important to some folks. If my kids decide to move I would probably try to be close to them
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If you need help convincing them to move on to greener pastures, I'm 4/4 with my siblings.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
If you need help convincing them to move on to greener pastures, I'm 4/4 with my siblings.
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My oldest will probably end up in Mid TN. My youngest is graduating HS this year so no clue where she will land after college. Keeping our options open I guess.
 
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BeardedVol said:
I don't recall Marx's writings on the 2nd Amendment of the US constitution, remind me.
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Marx didn’t view gun ownership as an individual, inalienable right. It was a means to an end.

Marxist-Leninist leaders that came after him all engaged in state sponsored gun confiscation once the revolutionary end was achieved.

Communist, Socialist, Marxist, Leninist, Maoist… doesn’t matter. None of those forms of government can allow for private gun ownership - they all require submission to the state.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Marx didn’t view gun ownership as an individual, inalienable right. It was a means to an end.

Marxist-Leninist leaders that came after him all engaged in state sponsored gun confiscation once the revolutionary end was achieved.

Communist, Socialist, Marxist, Leninist, Maoist… doesn’t matter. None of those forms of government can allow for private gun ownership - they all require submission to the state.
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Classical Marxist theory advocates for the working class to be armed. In fact, it is not inherent in many of those theoretical societal systems to deny individual gun ownership. Many modern socialists states, though, have chosen strict gun ownership. I’m not sure if that speaks to the systems themselves, or the individuals running the show, but it’s the wrong move.

Not gonna matter much once one of these idiot billionaires builds an autonomous army to wipe us all out and hoard earth for their own and some chosen few 😉
 
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85SugarVol said:
Marx didn’t view gun ownership as an individual, inalienable right. It was a means to an end.

Marxist-Leninist leaders that came after him all engaged in state sponsored gun confiscation once the revolutionary end was achieved.

Communist, Socialist, Marxist, Leninist, Maoist… doesn’t matter. None of those forms of government can allow for private gun ownership - they all require submission to the state.
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"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary."

"Under no pretext" seems pretty clear that Marx himself didn't believe the working class should be disarmed.
 
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OHvol40 said:
Classical Marxist theory advocates for the working class to be armed. In fact, it is not inherent in many of those theoretical societal systems to deny individual gun ownership. Many modern socialists states, though, have chosen strict gun ownership. I’m not sure if that speaks to the systems themselves, or the individuals running the show, but it’s the wrong move.

Not gonna matter much once one of these idiot billionaires builds an autonomous army to wipe us all out and hoard earth for their own and some chosen few 😉
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That’s why I pointed out that Marx viewed gun ownership as a means to an end. An armed proletariat to overthrow the power structure. Not as an individual right.

All of the successful Communist/Socialist revolutions that came after him engaged in mass confiscation - Lenin, Mao, Castro… they weren’t about to let the people posses firearms.
 
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BeardedVol said:
"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary."

"Under no pretext" seems pretty clear that Marx himself didn't believe the working class should be disarmed.
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Means to an end. Not an inalienable right.

All of the successful Communist revolutions that came after him followed the same pattern - massive state sponsored confiscation.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Means to an end. Not an inalienable right.
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Neither is the 2nd amendment, as the supreme court has declared that weapon possession/ownership can be suspended and regulated under US law.

85SugarVol said:
All of the successful Communist revolutions that came after him followed the same pattern - massive state sponsored confiscation.
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That doesn't change what Marx himself espoused.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Marx didn’t view gun ownership as an individual, inalienable right. It was a means to an end.

Marxist-Leninist leaders that came after him all engaged in state sponsored gun confiscation once the revolutionary end was achieved.

Communist, Socialist, Marxist, Leninist, Maoist… doesn’t matter. None of those forms of government can allow for private gun ownership - they all require submission to the state.
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Yugoslavia says hey. Albania too.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Marx didn’t view gun ownership as an individual, inalienable right. It was a means to an end.

Marxist-Leninist leaders that came after him all engaged in state sponsored gun confiscation once the revolutionary end was achieved.

Communist, Socialist, Marxist, Leninist, Maoist… doesn’t matter. None of those forms of government can allow for private gun ownership - they all require submission to the state.
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Karl Marx was literally the biggest loser in the world...a bum who wanted to give STDS to prostitutes and not work all day, expected others to pay for him, neglected his family and daughters.

My favorite is that he stated calculus wasn't true because "he proved it was fraud" and then wasn't smart enough to actually understand what he meant
 
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