Georgia Tech O-Line Weight

[sport3500]

Georgia Tech has one of the smallest offensive lines in the country.

 

[BlackCreekVol]

Noooo lol he showed how a defensive guy holding can cause a chop block. The guys aren't trying to chop lol, They go in for the cut block a lot of times without knowing if the guy is locked up because they shouldn't be locked up. How did you read something that wasn't even there lol?

^^^Tech's D4H IMO

 

[Pump Guy]

Hate to be a downer, but I don't think the size of the line has much to do with things. Compare a common opponent from last year, Georgia:

Against Georgia
Rushing Yards Passing Yards
Tennessee 127 230
Georgia Tech 226 164

I believe we will win, but I am worried it will be because we must score a lot of points rather than dominating the line of scrimmage due to size and strength.

 

[beej67]

Ok........ so you know every play we've ran since Nesbit lol? Also you think for one second if CPJ saw 8 in the box and knows there are only 3 in the secondary he wouldn't run 4 verts. Even if it was something added during a game? CPJ is a master at exposing those things and even if it wasn't 4 verts there are other routes he could exspose them with and that's my main point, for if you pack the box.

Oh yeah, we will definitely run fly routes with WRs if they're 8 or 9 in the box. Do that all the time, although most of the time we're doing that when they're running corner fire anticipating the rocket toss. I recall a gnarly 4th and 1 vs Kentucky in the last game we played, for instance. But we haven't run 4 verticals in recent memory. It's not like it's hard to remember all our pass plays when we only call ten a game. A lot of our passing is out of trips anyway.

 

[deeeznutz]

So you pretty much just admitted GT plays dirty in a long descriptive paragraph. Thanks for the info.....

Hmm...you consider a play where a defender commits a penalty that puts himself in a position to be injured to be a dirty play by the offense? Interesting
Btw the rule book specifically calls out that it's not a chop block if the defender engages an OL trying to get by him, that's defensive holding. Nice try though

 

[TennesseeTarheel]

The weights of appy st's starting ol was 280,290,295,300,315

My 15.5 yr old son, at 6'2" 285#'s, could play on their OL if he wasn't concerned about getting concussed. Thanks, Obama.

 

[aRmo]

seems this is the same conversation about OL weight we were having last year about Appy State

 

[checkerboards09]

Hmm...you consider a play where a defender commits a penalty that puts himself in a position to be injured to be a dirty play by the offense? Interesting
Btw the rule book specifically calls out that it's not a chop block if the defender engages an OL trying to get by him, that's defensive holding. Nice try though

We'll agree to disagree on our assessments of your style of play. There, that's trying.

 

[davethevol]

Pretty sure I saw similar numbers posted last season regarding Appy State. Yet they pushed us all over the field.

This all day. If our guys have bad technique and lack of discipline, then it will be just like last year's opener. Georgia Tech isn't a pushover team.

 

[MWAVolfan]

They are generally smaller. We should push them around, especially late in the game when they are worn down. Secondary has to be patient and stay at home. Our DBs can go 1v1 on the outside the entire game, and just let our guys be playmakers.

LT Lee, Jahaziel SO - 267 lbs

LG Braun, Parker SO - 280 lbs

C Cooper, Kenny SO - 307 lbs

RG Bryan, Will JR - 281 lbs

RT Marshall, Andrew SR - 282 lbs


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RDE - Kongbo - 264

DT - Vickers - 295, Picou - 280

DT - Kahlil - 320, Tuttle - 308

LDE Phillips - 263, Darrell taylor - 254

DKjr is 230 btw.

Just curious,how big was App States line last year? I don't see this this is a factor if the coach doesn't have the team ready to play and doesn't have the second team prepared to play like first team. It's not important given what we know about the vols history.

 

[deeeznutz]

We'll agree to disagree on our assessments of your style of play. There, that's trying.

Yup, a defensive player committing a penalty is dirty play by the offense. It reminds me of the common tactics we see thrown around by opposing fans for countering cut blocks (these are all quotes from your own board, btw, and not a single person challenged them):
"You want the braces on your elbows... and you shove them in their face masks."
"... or you wear your longest cleats and stomp their face in the dirt as they lunge at you."
"You could also jab your fingers in their eyes. Anyway you want to do it, you go for the face, because that's what they are exposing as they come at you."
Actual dirty play to counter a technique that annoys you. Yup, sounds like we're the dirty team alright. FYI I'm not trying to single you guys out, pretty much every fan base we go against says the same type of crap. Also in this bucket is "hit the QB hard, even if he pitched it a couple seconds ago". It's really comical to me to watch fans twist themselves into some pretzel logic by advocating for actual illegal, dirty play while insisting that we're somehow unethical.

 

[CoaxialOrange]

Our O line is smaller by design, it's more about speed and agility. A lot of times our guys aren't even blocking the D line but going to the second level to get a LB or safety, so at that point the size doesn't matter much. The LG was an ESPN 300 player who was a freshman all American, the center has received high praise from Paul johnson, and although the RG isn't huge, the dude is solid muscle. I'm more worried about our tackles.

In high school we played a team that ran the old school single wing and in college we played a team that ran the triple option. Both of my coaches had us practice without a ball for the first couple of days so we were more focused on our assignments than watching the ball I wonder if UT will do this.

 

[Techfan1]

Oh yeah, we will definitely run fly routes with WRs if they're 8 or 9 in the box. Do that all the time, although most of the time we're doing that when they're running corner fire anticipating the rocket toss. I recall a gnarly 4th and 1 vs Kentucky in the last game we played, for instance. But we haven't run 4 verticals in recent memory. It's not like it's hard to remember all our pass plays when we only call ten a game. A lot of our passing is out of trips anyway.

That 4th and 1 against UK was beautiful. Your talking about the pass to June right?

 

[deeeznutz]

In high school we played a team that ran the old school single wing and in college we played a team that ran the triple option. Both of my coaches had us practice without a ball for the first couple of days so we were more focused on our assignments than watching the ball I wonder if UT will do this.

The "practice without the ball" thing is actually pretty common for our opponents, and probably helpful in re-training your defenders to not just fly to the ball like they're normally taught against virtually every other offense. Doing that against an option offense results in guys being out of position, which can be very easily exploited.

 

[beej67]

That 4th and 1 against UK was beautiful. Your talking about the pass to June right?

I effed up, went back to check. It was 3rd and 4.

https://youtu.be/M1QtkSqShyQ?t=2h20m57s

Watch the nearside corner. We'd run rocket toss to the field three or four times needing medium yardage to move the chains in the game, usually getting it. We'd been wearing them out in the interior. Pause before the snap and run the count. 9 in the box within 6 yards of the LOS, MLB is between two flanking safties, other LBs are in tight to the line to jump through the splits, and they knew that the rocket toss would flank the whole mess, so they fire the corner.

The play we ran was much more typical of what we like to do. 3 seams, not 4, because we want the defensive players looking at the pitch guy as their key. Unless we tip something off, we've got two steps down the field before they know what's going on. The pass read was simple because JT saw the corner fire, but in truth a pass to the other WR would also be a single coverage mismatch, and the slot back is eating up the safety. Easy 40 yards.

I have not checked, but from memory the play we hit back to back big gains on in the UGA game last year may have been the same routes.

The "practice without the ball" thing is actually pretty common for our opponents, and probably helpful in re-training your defenders to not just fly to the ball like they're normally taught against virtually every other offense. Doing that against an option offense results in guys being out of position, which can be very easily exploited.

I'd guess about half our opponents do it that way. I'm not sure I've really seen a trend about whether it works or not. It might help. I bet it certainly helps get your scout team up to speed, because the scout team doesn't have to actually learn to get their pitch relationships right.

Again, this is why Brent Venables is such a badass. Holy crap that guy's a good DC. Instead of whining about not finding a good player to run QB on the scout team, he literally puts pads on and runs the scout team himself during GT prep. He scares me.

HEY TENNESSEE, if you guys end up canning your coach, go get Venables. I want that guy off my schedule, lol.