Georgia Tech O-Line Weight

#51
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dduncan4163 said:
You nailed it. If you jump on a team like GT early then it's extremely hard for them to catch up. Their offense isn't designed to play from behind. If we can get up by 2 or 3 scores faily early then it's game over.
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Why do people say we can't play from behind? We were in the top 3 last year in big plays. We scored on UGA fast last year (99 yard drive) we were behind on FSU in 2014 and came back and almost won but our D couldn't bow up. We do take long drives but that's part of the game plan.
 
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beej67 said:
We usually let one lineman through on purpose. Playside DE on the triple, Playside DT on the midline. It's freaking weird. Both plays run right at an unblocked lineman and make sure the guy he tackles doesn't have the ball - the other guy does. The lineman who would usually have blocked him is four yards downfield putting a hat on a linebacker.

All football is a numbers game, on run plays, we just add the numbers up very strangely. The plays don't look like they should work, you have to slomo them on DVR to really figure it out. It's weird.



You laugh, but Bud Foster plays a 5-2 with 3-3 personnel against us.



Be real, dude. We haven't run 4 verticals since Nesbitt. Most of our passing is two man combo routes because they're easier to read on a scramble. When we do four verts, it's run-and-shoot stuff with an option route in the slot (Mike Leach stuff) but we're not going to be doing that vs Tennessee - not enough experience at QB and no time to drill it while they're still learning option.
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Ok........ so you know every play we've ran since Nesbit lol? Also you think for one second if CPJ saw 8 in the box and knows there are only 3 in the secondary he wouldn't run 4 verts. Even if it was something added during a game? CPJ is a master at exposing those things and even if it wasn't 4 verts there are other routes he could exspose them with and that's my main point, for if you pack the box.
 
#54
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beej67 said:
You laugh, but Bud Foster plays a 5-2 with 3-3 personnel against us.
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This fan base can hate on Butch and we can argue all day long about Butch this and Butch that....but there is one thing he has proven year in and out:

Butch's Vols are 7-0 with 2 weeks or more to prepare for one team.

Jones’ teams often have been successful anytime the coach has had extra time to prepare for a regular-season game preceded by an open date.

Jones is 9-4 in those games. But the four losses included a 19-14 defeat in Tuscaloosa, Ala., in 2015. Although UT couldn’t pull off the upset, it was one of its best performances under Jones.

The Tide had to rally in the final minutes for a 19-14 comeback victory. Alabama went on to win the 2015 national championship.

Two weeks wasn’t enough time for Tennessee to prepare for Vanderbilt in 2013. It lost 14-10 at Neyland Stadium.

But don’t forget, that was the least talented by far of Jones’ four Tennessee teams. And earlier that season, UT took advantage of an extra week to prepare and knocked off 11th-ranked set to be East Div Winner South Carolina 23-21 at Neyland Stadium.

In 2014, after two weeks of preparation, the Vols threatened No. 12 Georgia before losing 35-32 at Sanford Stadium.

A few weeks later, after another open date, UT was at its best in a 50-16 rout of Kentucky.

That record is another reason why Tennessee’s upset loss to South Carolina last season was so stunning. The Vols had an open date to put a 49-10 loss to Alabama behind them and prepare for a South Carolina team that had lost four of its first six games.

Nonetheless, the Gamecocks bounced back to defeat Tennessee 24-21 at Williams-Brice Stadium.

But when the Vols have more than two weeks to prepare, they have been unbeatable under Jones. They’re 7-0 in openers and bowls.
 
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#55
Penetration up front beats the option offense any day. Combined with playing your role with discipline. If our defensive tackles get a good push consistently, we will have a good day as it blows up angles and reads.
 
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Techfan1 said:
Ok........ so you know every play we've ran since Nesbit lol? Also you think for one second if CPJ saw 8 in the box and knows there are only 3 in the secondary he wouldn't run 4 verts. Even if it was something added during a game? CPJ is a master at exposing those things and even if it wasn't 4 verts there are other routes he could exspose them with and that's my main point, for if you pack the box.
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dang, the way you are talking and have it all figured out, you guys should be pushing for playoff talk right? SMH
 
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volinbama256 said:
dang, the way you are talking and have it all figured out, you guys should be pushing for playoff talk right? SMH
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I was specifically talking about if you pack 8 in the box lol. Thays why you don't see that very often against us. I didn't say anything to insinuate I have it all figured out. I made a simple statement for packing the box, teams play us other ways. SMH
 
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checkerboards09 said:
That's exactly why I hope our DL holds a lot but doesn't make it too obvious. You can grasp a fist full of jersey just enough to get a good push so they can't get to that second level.
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That's a fantastic way to get a DL injured, if that's what you're going for. In the GT offense, when an OL brushes by a DL to get to the next level, there's a good chance that another OL has responsibility for that man and may be getting ready to cut him. If you have your DL grab and hold up the OL trying to get to the next level, he's not going to be able to react to the cut block coming from the next man over being engaged with a blocker trying to get by, in effect drawing a chop block that you 100% caused. If you're going to complain about GT's blocking schemes being dangerous, maybe don't do illegal stuff to put your guys in harm's way.
 
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SmokeyHound said:
They are generally smaller. We should push them around, especially late in the game when they are worn down. Secondary has to be patient and stay at home. Our DBs can go 1v1 on the outside the entire game, and just let our guys be playmakers.

LT Lee, Jahaziel SO - 267 lbs

LG Braun, Parker SO - 280 lbs

C Cooper, Kenny SO - 307 lbs

RG Bryan, Will JR - 281 lbs

RT Marshall, Andrew SR - 282 lbs


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RDE - Kongbo - 264

DT - Vickers - 295, Picou - 280

DT - Kahlil - 320, Tuttle - 308

LDE Phillips - 263, Darrell taylor - 254

DKjr is 230 btw.
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DKJr up to 238lb. Just sayin.....
 
#62
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SmokeyHound said:
They are generally smaller. We should push them around, especially late in the game when they are worn down. Secondary has to be patient and stay at home. Our DBs can go 1v1 on the outside the entire game, and just let our guys be playmakers.

LT Lee, Jahaziel SO - 267 lbs

LG Braun, Parker SO - 280 lbs

C Cooper, Kenny SO - 307 lbs

RG Bryan, Will JR - 281 lbs

RT Marshall, Andrew SR - 282 lbs


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RDE - Kongbo - 264

DT - Vickers - 295, Picou - 280

DT - Kahlil - 320, Tuttle - 308

LDE Phillips - 263, Darrell taylor - 254

DKjr is 230 btw.
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As far as us "should be able that push them around", App State says howdy.
 
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DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
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This fan base can hate on Butch and we can argue all day long about Butch this and Butch that....but there is one thing he has proven year in and out:

Butch's Vols are 7-0 with 2 weeks or more to prepare for one team.

Jones’ teams often have been successful anytime the coach has had extra time to prepare for a regular-season game preceded by an open date.

Jones is 9-4 in those games. But the four losses included a 19-14 defeat in Tuscaloosa, Ala., in 2015. Although UT couldn’t pull off the upset, it was one of its best performances under Jones.

The Tide had to rally in the final minutes for a 19-14 comeback victory. Alabama went on to win the 2015 national championship.

Two weeks wasn’t enough time for Tennessee to prepare for Vanderbilt in 2013. It lost 14-10 at Neyland Stadium.

But don’t forget, that was the least talented by far of Jones’ four Tennessee teams. And earlier that season, UT took advantage of an extra week to prepare and knocked off 11th-ranked set to be East Div Winner South Carolina 23-21 at Neyland Stadium.

In 2014, after two weeks of preparation, the Vols threatened No. 12 Georgia before losing 35-32 at Sanford Stadium.

A few weeks later, after another open date, UT was at its best in a 50-16 rout of Kentucky.

That record is another reason why Tennessee’s upset loss to South Carolina last season was so stunning. The Vols had an open date to put a 49-10 loss to Alabama behind them and prepare for a South Carolina team that had lost four of its first six games.

Nonetheless, the Gamecocks bounced back to defeat Tennessee 24-21 at Williams-Brice Stadium.

But when the Vols have more than two weeks to prepare, they have been unbeatable under Jones. They’re 7-0 in openers and bowls.
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I propose moving the Florida game to the season opener.
 
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#65
#65
Looks like our RT will miss the game. We might move out RG to RT and bring in our big 360 pound RG. The RG that might move started off at RT.
 
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the one said:
The weights of appy st's starting ol was 280,290,295,300,315
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People forget that it was a big AND very experienced offensive line. The DL was made up of smaller and quicker guys that gave our OL fits.
 
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SmokeyHound said:
They are generally smaller. We should push them around, especially late in the game when they are worn down. Secondary has to be patient and stay at home. Our DBs can go 1v1 on the outside the entire game, and just let our guys be playmakers.

LT Lee, Jahaziel SO - 267 lbs

LG Braun, Parker SO - 280 lbs

C Cooper, Kenny SO - 307 lbs

RG Bryan, Will JR - 281 lbs

RT Marshall, Andrew SR - 282 lbs


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RDE - Kongbo - 264

DT - Vickers - 295, Picou - 280

DT - Kahlil - 320, Tuttle - 308

LDE Phillips - 263, Darrell taylor - 254

DKjr is 230 btw.
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Nothing against you but there weight doesn't matter. Honestly this thread should be deleted.
 
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Techfan1 said:
Why do people say we can't play from behind? We were in the top 3 last year in big plays. We scored on UGA fast last year (99 yard drive) we were behind on FSU in 2014 and came back and almost won but our D couldn't bow up. We do take long drives but that's part of the game plan.
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It's way harder to catch up if you run the ball a lot more than passing. Run plays eat up way more clock than pass plays. Not to mention QBs playing the triple option aren't usually known for their passing ability. I have never seen a triple option team that's known for their quick strike ability.
 
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deeeznutz said:
That's a fantastic way to get a DL injured, if that's what you're going for. In the GT offense, when an OL brushes by a DL to get to the next level, there's a good chance that another OL has responsibility for that man and may be getting ready to cut him. If you have your DL grab and hold up the OL trying to get to the next level, he's not going to be able to react to the cut block coming from the next man over being engaged with a blocker trying to get by, in effect drawing a chop block that you 100% caused. If you're going to complain about GT's blocking schemes being dangerous, maybe don't do illegal stuff to put your guys in harm's way.
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So you pretty much just admitted GT plays dirty in a long descriptive paragraph. Thanks for the info.....
 
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checkerboards09 said:
So you pretty much just admitted GT plays dirty in a long descriptive paragraph. Thanks for the info.....
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Noooo lol he showed how a defensive guy holding can cause a chop block. The guys aren't trying to chop lol, They go in for the cut block a lot of times without knowing if the guy is locked up because they shouldn't be locked up. How did you read something that wasn't even there lol?
 
#72
#72
dduncan4163 said:
It's way harder to catch up if you run the ball a lot more than passing. Run plays eat up way more clock than pass plays. Not to mention QBs playing the triple option aren't usually known for their passing ability. I have never seen a triple option team that's known for their quick strike ability.
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I see what you are saying and I agree for the most part. If GT does have a QB like Justin Thomas from last year though, they can strike fast. We just don't get that type of guy very often.
 
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Techfan1 said:
Noooo lol he showed how a defensive guy holding can cause a chop block. The guys aren't trying to chop lol, They go in for the cut block a lot of times without knowing if the guy is locked up because they shouldn't be locked up. How did you read something that wasn't even there lol?
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It's there. GT fans just have selective seeing.
 
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