George W Is Gutless..

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Or those who live in CA near fires, mudslides, and earthquakes, those in WA and HI near volcanoes, those along the Mississippi River in a major flood area, those near nuclear plants and chemical factories, etc. etc. etc. I guess there are so many brainless people in this country. Is there anyone who fits into your realm of a high IQ?
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Or those who live in CA near fires, mudslides, and earthquakes, those in WA and HI near volcanoes, those along the Mississippi River in a major flood area, those near nuclear plants and chemical factories, etc. etc. etc. I guess there are so many brainless people in this country. Is there anyone who fits into your realm of a high IQ?
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Ah, I had the same response but I didn't expect any sort of a reasonable response.

We should just move the entire country to the Midwest.

Hell, then again...they do live in Tornado country....

Ahhhhh where do we go to get a high IQ???? :dance: :clapping: :clapping:
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Or those who live in CA near fires, mudslides, and earthquakes, those in WA and HI near volcanoes, those along the Mississippi River in a major flood area, those near nuclear plants and chemical factories, etc. etc. etc. I guess there are so many brainless people in this country. Is there anyone who fits into your realm of a high IQ?
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I'm proud to say that the area I live in is pretty danger free. Hurricanes can't get us, little to no tornados, never really dry enough to burn, never really wet enough to flood and if it does, we're elevated. No volcanoes, earthquakes or any huge chemical factories...

I guess I'm just brilliant!! :hi:
 
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U-T said:
Ah, I had the same response but I didn't expect any sort of a reasonable response.

We should just move the entire country to the Midwest.

Hell, then again...they do live in Tornado country....

Ahhhhh where do we go to get a high IQ???? :dance: :clapping: :clapping:
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Or people could just take on your thought process, which is to live in a high risk area and then act like it is the government's job to bail them out when something that was known to be a possibility occurs. Yea, that process worked out real well.
 
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Well considering the levee system is the responsibility of the Federal Government and the CoE....

Even in the private sector if a private company offers something and takes responsibility for something and that something fails, what happens? They take the blame and rectify the situation.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Well considering the levee system is the responsibility of the Federal Government and the CoE....

Even in the private sector if a private company offers something and takes responsibility for something and that something fails, what happens? They take the blame and rectify the situation.
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Haven't I demonstrated already that the levee system was not the responsibility of the Federal Government nor the Corps of Engineers...
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Well considering the levee system is the responsibility of the Federal Government and the CoE....

Even in the private sector if a private company offers something and takes responsibility for something and that something fails, what happens? They take the blame and rectify the situation.
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Again, we go back to people making indvidually bad decisons. They don't want to face the risk of living in a hurricane flood prone area, then move. No one was forced to live there.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Well considering the levee system is the responsibility of the Federal Government and the CoE....

Even in the private sector if a private company offers something and takes responsibility for something and that something fails, what happens? They take the blame and rectify the situation.
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It is my understanding that a good portion of the money sent by the feds for levee maintenance and upkeep was diverted by local politicians in their infinite wisdom.

My beef with the people that choose to live below sea level in an area prone to be hit by hurricanes is the fact that as a taxpayer I get to help rebuild their homes, businesses and lives in arguably the most corrupt political area in the country.
 
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KentheOrange said:
It is my understanding that a good portion of the money sent by the feds for levee maintenance and upkeep was diverted by local politicians in their infinite wisdom.

My beef with the people that choose to live below sea level in an area prone to be hit by hurricanes is the fact that as a taxpayer I get to help rebuild their homes, businesses and lives in arguably the most corrupt political area in the country.
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So you are saying there is no Federal responsibility at all? They can hand out money with no oversight and wash their hands clean? And the fact that the Army Corps of Engineers holds the walls to the city has nothing to do with it?

And for N.O. being the most corrupt political area in the country, you obviously are forgetting Chicago, NYC, and my favorite Washington, DC.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
So you are saying there is no Federal responsibility at all? They can hand out money with no oversight and wash their hands clean? And the fact that the Army Corps of Engineers holds the walls to the city has nothing to do with it?

And for N.O. being the most corrupt political area in the country, you obviously are forgetting Chicago, NYC, and my favorite Washington, DC.
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So where is the personal responsibility in all this? Never hear much about that....just hear, give me, give me, give me.
 
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allvol123 said:
Or people could just take on your thought process, which is to live in a high risk area and then act like it is the government's job to bail them out when something that was known to be a possibility occurs. Yea, that process worked out real well.
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Wait, show me where I blamed the Federal Government?

Is that the new repeat button for Republicans and/or Bush Supporters when talking to a New Orleans person.

"Uh....YOU HATE BUSH AND BLAME EVERYONE BUT YOURSELVES!!!! AHHHHH YOU HATE BABIES AND LITTLE KIDS!!!'

The funny part about this whole thing is the Times-Picyune has done numerous articles down here blaming local politicians and past Louisiana politicians for the work of the levees yet still because of maybe 1-2 articles written by some opinionists down here (word?)....they act like the whole state/city blame the Country.
 
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allvol123 said:
Again, we go back to people making indvidually bad decisons. They don't want to face the risk of living in a hurricane flood prone area, then move. No one was forced to live there.
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Agreed. Make everyone living along the Gulf Coast move or else...make everyone near Earthquake lines move....and tell all people in the Midwest to move

It makes perfect sense.

I am sure everyone will be excited to hear this brilliant proposal.
 
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allvol123 said:
So where is the personal responsibility in all this? Never hear much about that
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Then do some research and read it.

It's all over the papers across the country and the local papers including the Times and Advocate.

Duhhhhhhh

There was an article written awhile back by a opinion writer for the Times blaming the Corps and the paper got hundreds of LOCAL people bashing him for forgetting Edwin Edwards and the multitude of politicians who screwed up.
 
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U-T said:
Then do some research and read it.

It's all over the papers across the country and the local papers including the Times and Advocate.

Duhhhhhhh

There was an article written awhile back by a opinion writer for the Times blaming the Corps and the paper got hundreds of LOCAL people bashing him for forgetting Edwin Edwards and the multitude of politicians who screwed up.
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Where in your remarks above is there any suggestions of personal responsibility related to the citizens?
 
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U-T said:
Agreed. Make everyone living along the Gulf Coast move or else...make everyone near Earthquake lines move....and tell all people in the Midwest to move

It makes perfect sense.

I am sure everyone will be excited to hear this brilliant proposal.
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Where did I say MAKE anyone move. They have a right to live where they want. Just don't be sticking your damn hand out after you made a stupid decision. Please come back with something more rational than the chicken scratch you posted above.
 
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U-T said:
Agreed. Make everyone living along the Gulf Coast move or else...make everyone near Earthquake lines move....and tell all people in the Midwest to move

It makes perfect sense.

I am sure everyone will be excited to hear this brilliant proposal.
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In California, there are private companies that offer earthquake insurance (which they are not federally mandated to do.) In the midwest, there are private companies that offer tornado insurance (which they are not federally mandated to do.) On various flood plains along the Mississippi, private insurance companies offer flood insurance (again, no federal mandate.) Yet, private companies did not offer flood and hurricane insurance in New Orleans until the federal government mandated it. When industries whose sole action is to calculate the risk/reward of living in certain places states clearly that New Orleans is too high of a risk, then that should send a message to people who live there. Yet, the residents of New Orleans did not get the message prior to Katrina and, now after Katrina, still fail to understand. That is why I question the IQ.
 
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allvol123 said:
Where in your remarks above is there any suggestions of personal responsibility related to the citizens?
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Are you taking what you have read about the ghetto 9th Ward FEMA members and thus concluded that nobody in New Orleans has taken any responsibility towards their own home?

My street alone has yet to see a dime from FEMA nor do people expect yet millions have gone back into the street out of people's own pocket.

If you actually did some research into what is ACTUALLY happening in New Orleans you would see that but instead you read the New York Times and other major media outlets that state Leroy and Tyrone have taken advantage of FEMA and thus conclude everyone in the city has done the same.

The ignorance in the country is at an all-time high.
 
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Please come back with something more rational than the chicken scratch you posted above.
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Translation: I can't respond to your post so am trying to steer away from the comparison :birgits_giggle:
 
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U-T said:
Are you taking what you have read about the ghetto 9th Ward FEMA members and thus concluded that nobody in New Orleans has taken any responsibility towards their own home?

My street alone has yet to see a dime from FEMA nor do people expect yet millions have gone back into the street out of people's own pocket.

If you actually did some research into what is ACTUALLY happening in New Orleans you would see that but instead you read the New York Times and other major media outlets that state Leroy and Tyrone have taken advantage of FEMA and thus conclude everyone in the city has done the same.

The ignorance in the country is at an all-time high.
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I have pinpointed no citizen or specific community for taking advantage of anything. My claim is that the people in this city should have prepared individually long in advance of this event. Whether it be through insurance, personal savings, or moving.
 
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therealUT said:
Yet, the residents of New Orleans did not get the message prior to Katrina and, now after Katrina, still fail to understand. That is why I question the IQ.
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Many residents did have flood insurance. You look at the 9th Ward and have very little to no insurance which is where most of the cases come from. Look around Lakeview, French Quarter, and Uptown and you see very little IF ANY cases.

Not sure how all of this makes me and others have low IQ's when we were not hit that hard by Katrina....and have insurance....and have not asked FEMA for any money....and don't want anyone to feel sorry for us.

Are people that moved back to the Alabama/Florida border idiots or have low IQ's? Ivan whipped out most of that area and see Hurricanes almost yearly....
 
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allvol123 said:
My claim is that the people in this city should have prepared individually long in advance of this event. Whether it be through insurance, personal savings, or moving.
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Uptown was not hit that hard, French Quarter was not hit that hard, and Metairie survived in most parts.

Take a tour around Lakeview and then take a tour around the 9th Ward. One is a white, middle-scale area and the other is the pits of the universe. Yet, No stories about Lakeview residents instead all we get to hear are about the idiots in the ghettos.

Point is, many in the city were prepared whether it was through their own money and insurance. You just don't hear much about it because Tyrone taking advantage of FEMA gets headlines.
 
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One more thing, I actually enjoy Post-Katrina New Orleans over Pre-Katrina New Orleans. :good!:

Someone PM'ed me today saying how I was stuck living down here and I retorted how much BETTER it is these days. :dance2:
 
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U-T said:
Many residents did have flood insurance. You look at the 9th Ward and have very little to no insurance which is where most of the cases come from. Look around Lakeview, French Quarter, and Uptown and you see very little IF ANY cases.

Not sure how all of this makes me and others have low IQ's when we were not hit that hard by Katrina....and have insurance....and have not asked FEMA for any money....and don't want anyone to feel sorry for us.

Are people that moved back to the Alabama/Florida border idiots or have low IQ's? Ivan whipped out most of that area and see Hurricanes almost yearly....
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I know...it was federally mandated that insurance agencies had to offer it in N.O.

To your second point, people who moved back to the Biloxi/Bay St. Louis area of Mississippi are idiots. Forty years ago, Camille wiped out civilization there. Katrina did it again.
 
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