General Neyland and Phillip Fulmer

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My dad and I were in a discussion with some other UT fans today, and we got on the topic of football. The guy was arguing that maybe we aren't as great of a program traditionally as we think we are. What coach other than Neyland himself or Fulmer actually had prolonged success?
 
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and just because there has only been a few coaches with prolonged success doesn't mean we aren't a great program traditionally...I didn't know going through 20 coaches helps that much
 
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Majors wasn't a bum, he put together some good years.

Neyland/Majors/Fulmer are UT.
 
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Midfielder10 said:
My dad and I were in a discussion with some other UT fans today, and we got on the topic of football. The guy was arguing that maybe we aren't as great of a program traditionally as we think we are. What coach other than Neyland himself or Fulmer actually had prolonged success?
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I think that the tradition that the other guys are talking about is relative for the most part. Tradition that you are talking about is the identity and history of the program you follow. I think the fact that we don't have an identity right now, and the fact that we haven't been highly successful in the past few years or so, is what is giving the perception to these guys that we aren't a "traditionally great" program right now. Historically, we have a very good tradition within the program, but success always makes that more relevant at the time you are discussing it with people who probably never attended the school in the first place.
 
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Fulmer did not have "prolonged" success either. Last decade was the first ever without a Vol team finishing in the AP top ten, beginning with their first polls in the Thirties.

Majors' won-loss record year to year was a gradual upward trend line. We didn't really have a national recruiting program when Majors took over. He built the program and national championship caliber roster that Fulmer inherited.

Who other than Fulmer had such quality program and players on their first day ever as a head coach? I'll put Majors second only to Neyland, because the program steadily improved.
 
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Volru said:
Fulmer did not have "prolonged" success either. Last decade was the first ever without a Vol team finishing in the AP top ten, beginning with their first polls in the Thirties.

Majors' won-loss record year to year was a gradual upward trend line. We didn't really have a national recruiting program when Majors took over. He built the program and national championship caliber roster that Fulmer inherited.

Who other than Fulmer had such quality program and players on their first day ever as a head coach? I'll put Majors second only to Neyland, because the program steadily improved.
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The last line is one of the dumbest things I have ever read...Fulmer is the ONLY coach to ever inherit a good program...give me a break.

Fulmer had the highest winning percentage of ALL coaches in NCAA history at one point, I would consider that sustained success.

I'm not the biggest Fulmer supporter you would ever meet but I have not adopted the "Fulmer sucked" agenda either.
 
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We have won at least 2 SECC every decade with the exception of 70's and 00's.

Majors was 116-62-8 with 3 SECC

Dickey was 45-15-4 with 2 SECC
 
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VolDad said:
We have won at least 2 SECC every decade with the exception of 70's and 00's.

Majors was 116-62-8 with 3 SECC

Dickey was 45-15-4 with 2 SECC
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I didn't even bother mentioning Dickey but he was good as well, he did a lot of things for UT that won't show up in the win/loss column, things that are now tradition.
 
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Volru said:
Fulmer did not have "prolonged" success either. Last decade was the first ever without a Vol team finishing in the AP top ten, beginning with their first polls in the Thirties.

Majors' won-loss record year to year was a gradual upward trend line. We didn't really have a national recruiting program when Majors took over. He built the program and national championship caliber roster that Fulmer inherited.

Who other than Fulmer had such quality program and players on their first day ever as a head coach? I'll put Majors second only to Neyland, because the program steadily improved.
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This is incorrect. The Vols finished #4 in the 2001 season Final AP poll.

2001 final AP poll
 
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GahLee said:
The last line is one of the dumbest things I have ever read...Fulmer is the ONLY coach to ever inherit a good program...give me a break.

Fulmer had the highest winning percentage of ALL coaches in NCAA history at one point, I would consider that sustained success.

I'm not the biggest Fulmer supporter you would ever meet but I have not adopted the "Fulmer sucked" agenda either.
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Name one then. TN was Fulmer's first ever head coaching job anywhere. Name a first time head coach who had a better program and roster day one. Name one. Talk about dumb.
 
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Volru said:
Name one then. TN was Fulmer's first ever head coaching job anywhere. Name a first time head coach who had a better program and roster day one. Name one. Talk about dumb.
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First name that popped in my head...Lloyd Carr...talk about dumb.
 
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GAVol said:
Bill Battle
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Arguably the program and talent level for that era were comparable when Battle took over, but we were already falling the trends in national recruiting.
 
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