Gene Chizik

#55
#55
chavisut said:
It amazes me that Kiffin had such a strong influence on some fans they are actually becoming USC fans. For a guy that did next to nothing for UT in the long run, it baffles me.
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Kiffin's approach to coaching appeals to me. Dooley's does not. Its not that I think Dooley is a bad coach, recruiter, or a role model. Nor do I necessarily believe he will fail, although I am reserving my judgement for now. But I did like what Kiffin was doing.

I feel as though this is why some people still have lingering feelings for Kiffin. Everyone is stung by his actions, but when you compare the excitment that Kiffin brought to the mundane, tight-closed door approach of Dooley, its not hard to see why.

I still will continue to cheer against USC, unless it is against a Big 10 oponent.
 
#56
#56
I wish Dooley could have brought in a Gus Malzahn. I don't know if his offense can be a championship builder, but like the run and shoot used to be, it is entertaining.
 
#57
#57
lylsmorr said:
The point he's trying to convey is that Saban won at Michigan St. before coming to the SEC, Dooley struggled in the WAC
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the WAC has done much better on a national stage in the last few years compared to the Big 11.... just ask Oklahoma.
 
#58
#58
nickknx865 said:
I want somebody to post a link of anyone on here having Derek Dooley on their wishlist.
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I actually recall there being a thread started during the early hours of the coaching search that did suggest Dooley as the replacement. It was to no surprise lost in the countless threads devoted to Stoops, Muschamp, Gruden, and I think Calhoun (?).

I wouldnt say he was high on the wishlist, but there was no general oposition to him either. There was not a general complaint until the lack of recruiting dazzle and the anti-media practices of Dooley came out.
 
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#59
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Boise St. has a history of good football. Their overall winning percentage, as a football program from the start is over 70%, and that's overall not just their D-1 FBS record.
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I thought we were talking about the cultural environment? Ruston may be bad, but Greenville, NC isn't too great...has a high crime rate from what I read, however ECU doesn't seem to have too big of a problem winning. They even beat WVU and Va Tech
 
#60
#60
PA Vol said:
Kiffin's approach to coaching appeals to me. Dooley's does not. Its not that I think Dooley is a bad coach, recruiter, or a role model. Nor do I necessarily believe he will fail, although I am reserving my judgement for now. But I did like what Kiffin was doing.

I feel as though this is why some people still have lingering feelings for Kiffin. Everyone is stung by his actions, but when you compare the excitment that Kiffin brought to the mundane, tight-closed door approach of Dooley, its not hard to see why.

I still will continue to cheer against USC, unless it is against a Big 10 oponent.
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yeah i loved how he pissed everyone off, didn't win the important games and bolted before the rubber hit the road.... great guy to admire
 
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PA Vol said:
I actually recall there being a thread started during the early hours of the coaching search that did suggest Dooley as the replacement. It was to no surprise lost in the countless threads devoted to Stoops, Muschamp, Gruden, and I think Calhoun (?).

I wouldnt say he was high on the wishlist, but there was no general oposition to him either. There was not a general complaint until the lack of recruiting dazzle and the anti-media practices of Dooley came out.
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I'm seriously trying to understand why the majority of people on here are so excited about him. That's why I brought that up.

And of course there was no real opposition to him before he was hired. Nobody except for a couple of people even knew who he was.
 
#63
#63
VegasVol said:
More myth. Here's the facts:

Inherited Players

Auburn
5*: 1
4*: 19
2010 NFL Draft Picks: 2

Tennessee
5*: 5
4*: 22
2010 NFL Draft Picks: 6

Auburn also had less depth in overall numbers and had fewer top-tier recruiting commits when Chizik took over compared to Kiffin.
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Yet they still beat us and had a better record. I don't necessarily place all my stock in star ratings that are placed on high school kids, but that's just me.
 
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#65
trevols81 said:
texas, oklahoma, and maybe nebraska.... who else is there??? T A&M? Kansas? please....
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A&M, Kansas, Kansas St., Iowa would all work over every single member of the WAC like they were a high school team. With the possible exception of Boise St.
 
#66
#66
tvolsfan said:
Chizik will never win his division.
I still think it's an awful hire.
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seconded. i thought chizik was a terrible choice by auburn when he was hired and still feel pretty much the same way. he had a decent first year there, but i still believe that he won't live up to the type of success that the auburn faithful want him to have there.
 
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#67
lylsmorr said:
A&M, Kansas, Kansas St., Iowa would all work over every single member of the WAC like they were a high school team. With the possible exception of Boise St.
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what about mizzou??? since you love the cards so much.... they did kill my braves in this latest series....


but in all seriousness you are probably right. i thought TCU was in the WAC for some reason
 
#68
#68
well i think what has to do with auburn turnaround is Gus Malzahn. he runs a crazy offense that averages like 50 points a game..chizik really shocked me this past season with recruiting. trooper taylor is also on the staff and i guess is awsome recruiter...damn chestbumper...
 
#69
#69
trevols81 said:
what about mizzou??? since you love the cards so much.... they did kill my braves in this latest series....


but in all seriousness you are probably right. i thought TCU was in the WAC for some reason
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TCU can hang with the best, but they are a MWC member
 
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#71
nickknx865 said:
I'm seriously trying to understand why the majority of people on here are so excited about him. That's why I brought that up.

And of course there was no real opposition to him before he was hired. Nobody except for a couple of people even knew who he was.
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I was simply saying that the apparent love for Kiffin v. the apparent dissatisfaction for Dooley stems from personality differences. Kiffin is more appealing, and Dooley hasnt had the oppurtunity to prove anything on the field yet.
 
#73
#73
vols-1 said:
If you want a 7-5/8-4 guy then Chizik's your man, but if you want to take the program to SEC championships then you need Saban
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Saban isnt the only coach in SEC history to win an SEC championship, ya know? Just throwing that out there.
 
#74
#74
AJeray4TN said:
Yet they still beat us and had a better record. I don't necessarily place all my stock in star ratings that are placed on high school kids, but that's just me.
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Ok, stars aside. Look at the draft picks dude.
 
#75
#75
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Ok, and yet there is significantly more resources at Michigan State than there ever will be at La. Tech. It's not like Dooley was the HC of Texas and couldn't win with their talent. Go look up Ruston, LS, and ask yourself who the heck would ever be successful there.
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Oh, you're right. We actually should have looked at Murray State's head coach, since our resources are so much better that he would obviously be successful.
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