Gators' "leg cramping" should be penalized

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#52
why did the refs let fla get away with all these fake injuries?? they should be charged timeouts and given delay of game penalties. i'm tired of this.
 
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GAVol said:
One time when the crowd was booing for leg cramps, the Florida player had obviously gotten his bell rung on a helmet to helmet hit. Got to be careful when you start asking officials to play doctor.

I do like the idea though of making a player sit for the rest of the drive or at least until the next first down if he goes down and they have to stop the game.
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if it's that bad they should sit out for a while to be evaluated....I think if a player is injured to the point where it causes a injury timeout...they should have to sit out until a change of possession occurs....theses fake injuries are becoming too commonplace.

GBO!!!
 
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OrangeBloodinTN said:
Only one team yesterday had leg cramping problems. And, oh, what a surprise -- it was the gators after big plays by the Vols when doing hurry up, no huddle. This is dirty and happened too many times for it to have been actual injuries. I'm out of my mind excited for the win... I have no voice today after screaming my head off in Neyland with 100k of my best friends. Go Big Orange! Great to see our team rise above the dirty play, the trash talking, and win it on the field! The kind of trash football we saw yesterday should be penalized. There has to be a way to regulate it. Maybe if it happens too many times all players who cramp must sit out two quarters. Something drastic would help end it.
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It's not just Florida, EVERYONE is abusing the injury timeout to slowdown no huddle hurry up offenses. My solution to this is to make it so no substitutions are allowed during an injury timeout aside from medical subs and the players that are subbed are not to return to the game until the next series so as to allow the medical staff adequate time to evaluate the player. Boom done, that crap will stop in a huge hurry.
 
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It was obvious that they were faking because they hopped right up and walked away without any sort of limp. I know from experience that leg cramps hurt like h*ll... You dont just hop up like that and walk normally if you just had one.
 
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I think that most of Florida's player cramps were legit. Their sideline was in the bright sunshine for at least the entire 1st half and it only happened about five times.

Appy State had it happen 2, 3, or maybe even 4 times as often. I do believe that they were coached to fake their injuries.
 
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My wife even got irritated with the cramping players. Her reaction: "They need to have a sideline mechanism equipped with a towing wench, if they go down with cramps hook it up to their shoulder pads and pull em off the field." LOL, I like it!
 
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I hadn't thought of fake leg cramps before now. I attributed it to the level of play the Gator defense was bringing in the first half. They were giving 120%! I thought they may have given out, but it did seem strange since their home conditions must be more stressful than in Tennessee. However, towards the end on McIllwain's postgame presser, he implied that some of their injuries were, shall we say, less than genuine. I lke the idea of a player sitting out, though. It makes more sense than the helmet loss/one play out rule, to me.
 
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Out for the series. The ones that kill me are the DBs that cramp two feet from the sidelines. If it's that bad roll over and get out of bounds. It was incredibly obvious that it was only happening to one team, and furthermore a team that comes from a hotter and more humid location than Knoxville. And hello didn't they invent Gatorade? I don't think you can throw a flag because you can't prove injuries, but I think it's fair for "player safety" that they sit out the rest of the series. I bet that will cure a lot of cramps.
 
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#62
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You guys should contact the NCAA with these ideas. Not being s smart butt, some good ones! Not like they'd listen though.
 
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I couldn't believe how many of their guys got "cramps". Timing was always when we were jamming it up their butts too. They practice in more hot and humid conditions than our guys do and we didn't have one case that I remember.
 
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New rule should be: (as many have suggested)

If a player leaves the field due to injury that resulted in an officials timeout that player cannot return to the field until the next change of possession.

My 12 year old son who has been watching the Vols his entire life said "why is it that only the other teams defense seems to get the cramps?" He also added "didn't Florida invent Gatorade to stop this from happening? Did they forget?"

Sometimes the obvious is just too obvious.
 
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I'm definitely not defending UF, but they did sit in the sun for a lot longer than our players did. West sideline was shaded beginning in the second. While the Gator's sideline was getting hit with sun full force until much later.
 
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You have to be careful though. A change needs to happen, but there were several times where players were clearly hurt (you could tell by the way they were hit) and yet we still boo'd them. You can usually tell which ones are fake. For example, in the 3rd quarter there was a Gator running off the field like normal and then when it looked like he wouldn't make it in time he just dove on the ground and grabbed his leg. It was comical.

I think the proper solution is to bump it up from 1 to 3 plays. A whole series is extreme and an entire quarter like some suggested is stupid. Just wait till a cramp affects our player and you would be hoping it wasn't that long. 3 plays is long enough to deter it from happening all the time. A lot can happen in three plays. We had 3 straight drives for TD's of 3, 4, and 3 plays.
 
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NCAA may look at this but I doubt anything will happen. I like the change of possession thought but the coaches are smart and will adapt by ensuring there are designated floppers where you are deep with talent.

In the end it is annoying and ethically questionable but I don't believe you can ever prove it and cause a rule change. Hope I am wrong.
 
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timbowyn said:
With all the "players" falling out with injuries in the middle of important drives, I propose a rule change. Players who get hurt on the field, requiring play stoppage, should be required not only to leave the field for the next play, but I suggest for the next five minutes of play or twenty plays. If it's a defensive player and only two plays remain in the series, then 18 in the next. For those looking to speed up play, I believe this will help. This would protect players who may be hurt worse than first believed, just wanting to get back to play. And, of course, would lower the number of free timeouts.
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yeah .... that's what our opponents want and need when UT goes hurry up.... a free time-out to regroup and slow us down. very unfair IMO. CBJ mentioned the fact of how well UT goes about being prepared prior to games and proper hydration is just another aspect of being prepared. it's simply happening too often against us or else it's a demonstration that we are the better prepared team and yet we actually get penalized for being better prepared. a lot of good suggestions on this thread and league ought to look into it cause it's just gonna keep happening. still a fine line to be considered from medical standpoint.:thumbsup:
 
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