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Jax_Vol said:
Anyone know what Indiana has to offer?

I haven't seen them play this decade
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From what I've been able to learn...

A starting QB in Peyton Ramsey who is a big, tough pro-style pocket passer with a lot of game experience. He plays smart, sees the field well, has adequate arm strength, goes through his progressions and will find the open receiver if given time. Has good pocket presence, feels pressure and has the ability to move around to avoid it. Not a big threat to run, but athletic enough to pull it down and get a few yards when needed.

A guy named Whop Philyor (seriously) is his favorite receiver. Philyor has over 1,000 yards receiving, but Ramsey spreads the ball around and they have three other receivers with 500+. Philyor is small (listed at 5'11", but looks smaller), but he is fast with good quickness. He is Ramsey's primary target, but he will also run around and get open when the play breaks down -- kind of reminds me of a Wes Welker type of guy.

Their starting tailback is a 6'2" 235 lb. sophomore named Stevie Scott. He is a tough downhill runner and they like to use their passing game to spread the defense and then run him off-tackle. He has several 100+ yard rushing games, both this year and in 2018, when he started as a true freshman. He is patient, waits for holes to open and is quick to get through them when they do. He doesn't look super fast and doesn't seem to make many tacklers miss, but he has been a productive running threat for them. He is also a receiving threat and they will throw the ball to him on check-downs and designed passing plays out of the backfield.

If our offense can show up then I think we'll be okay. I think our defense and special teams are definitely better than theirs. They do have a good FG kicker in second-team All-Big Ten Logan Justus, a 5th year senior. They also have a kid from West Tennessee named Charles Campbell who has kicked a couple of 40-yarders for them this season. Their kickoff returner is a true freshman named David Ellis who has averaged over 20 yards per return and Philyor is dangerous returning punts.

They get some good defensive production out of their LBs and have some stout DL, but we should be able to overcome them if we play up to our ability.
 
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Hacksaw said:
From what I've been able to learn...

A starting QB in Peyton Ramsey who is a big, tough pro-style pocket passer with a lot of game experience. He plays smart, sees the field well, has adequate arm strength, goes through his progressions and will find the open receiver if given time. Has good pocket presence, feels pressure and has the ability to move around to avoid it. Not a big threat to run, but athletic enough to pull it down and get a few yards when needed.

A guy named Whop Philyor (seriously) is his favorite receiver. Philyor has over 1,000 yards receiving, but Ramsey spreads the ball around and they have three other receivers with 500+. Philyor is small (listed at 5'11", but looks smaller), but he is fast with good quickness. He is Ramsey's primary target, but he will also run around and get open when the play breaks down -- kind of reminds me of a Wes Welker type of guy.

Their starting tailback is a 6'2" 235 lb. sophomore named Stevie Scott. He is a tough downhill runner and they like to use their passing game to spread the defense and then run him off-tackle. He has several 100+ yard rushing games, both this year and in 2018, when he started as a true freshman. He is patient, waits for holes to open and is quick to get through them when they do. He doesn't look super fast and doesn't seem to make many tacklers miss, but he has been a productive running threat for them. He is also a receiving threat and they will throw the ball to him on check-downs and designed passing plays out of the backfield.

If our offense can show up then I think we'll be okay. I think our defense and special teams are definitely better than theirs. They do have a good FG kicker in second-team All-Big Ten Logan Justus, a 5th year senior. They also have a kid from West Tennessee named Charles Campbell who has kicked a couple of 40-yarders for them this season. Their kickoff returner is a true freshman named David Ellis who has averaged over 20 yards per return and Philyor is dangerous returning punts.

They get some good defensive production out of their LBs and have some stout DL, but we should be able to overcome them if we play up to our ability.
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They sounds like a good team. Hope we're not overlooking them
 
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Jax_Vol said:
They sounds like a good team. Hope we're not overlooking them
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They're ranked pretty closely to us in most of the presumably objective ranking matrices. Like us, all of their wins came against teams with a combined losing record. So they didn't really beat anyone good. But they were competitive in losses to Michigan State and Penn State. And they strung together some consecutive conference victories, including back-to-back road wins, which is a rare accomplishment for their football program. The Michigan State loss looked a lot stronger at the time, before the Spartans faded in the second-half of the season. Maryland, Nebraska and Northwestern all had down years, which the Hoosiers happily capitalized on.

I would say that Indiana is a bit of an unknown commodity -- again like us, IMO. The thing we have going for us is that we have played overall better competition. So hopefully that will help us.

The thing that bodes well for them is that they will likely be very pumped for this game. Their fans are looking at this game as an opportunity for their football program to cross the Rubicon, so to speak.
 
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Hacksaw said:
They're ranked pretty closely to us in most of the presumably objective ranking matrices. Like us, all of their wins came against teams with a combined losing record. So they didn't really beat anyone good. But they were competitive in losses to Michigan State and Penn State. And they strung together some consecutive conference victories, including back-to-back road wins, which is a rare accomplishment for their football program. The Michigan State loss looked a lot stronger at the time, before the Spartans faded in the second-half of the season. Maryland, Nebraska and Northwestern all had down years, which the Hoosiers happily capitalized on.

I would say that Indiana is a bit of an unknown commodity -- again like us, IMO. The thing we have going for us is that we have played overall better competition. So hopefully that will help us.

The thing that bodes well for them is that they will likely be very pumped for this game. Their fans are looking at this game as an opportunity for their football program to cross the Rubicon, so to speak.
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Not true, we beat UAB 9-5 and Kentucky 7-5. Also, Mizzou, MissSt and FCS Chat had 6-6 non losing records.

We should be pumped for the game too as most of the players on the team hadn't been to a bowl game...our first one since 2016.
 
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HuntlandVolinColo said:
Not true, we beat UAB 9-5 and Kentucky 7-5. Also, Mizzou, MissSt and FCS Chat had 6-6 non losing records.

We should be pumped for the game too as most of the players on the team hadn't been to a bowl game...our first one since 2016.
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I said "combined losing record" -- meaning the combined W-L record of all the teams we beat was below .500, same as Indiana. The combined record of the 7 teams we beat for the season was 41-44.
 
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what I got from that was that Brandon Kennedy is starting at center for the bowl game. Last I heard he was in "wait and see" mode after having his knee worked on. Did I miss where he was cleared to play?
 
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VolBricks said:
what I got from that was that Brandon Kennedy is starting at center for the bowl game. Last I heard he was in "wait and see" mode after having his knee worked on. Did I miss where he was cleared to play?
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Haven't read anything definitive but it was a minor procedure so he might be good to go
 
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HuntlandVolinColo said:
We're probably gonna see a lot of 2 TE sets in the first half with DWA and Pope getting plenty of looks as well as both TEs blocking for the run game.

CJP probably wants to continue the running game momentum from Vandy game to keep Hoosiers Offense off the field and wear their Defense down.
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Logical reasoning. But also...
with the benefit of time to put in some special plays or packages, in the 1st half I truly expect to see a pass from the wildcat formation. If we have another RB or WR who can throw the ball.

For sure, our staff will be looking for ways to make orangeade out of the Jennings' 1st half lemon.
 
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believe we'll come out letting it fly...aggressive..heck, it's a bowl game...best time to do it...trick plays...wildcat, you name it...and,

GO BIG ORANGE...BEAT THE HOOSIERS!
 
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The whole team (players for game) looks just a little unsettled to me. AND this makes me very unsettled as to our ability to win. This transferring sh-- that allows players to come and go at will is not too good for the game. Nor is the now excepted "sitting out" by players who place self above responsibilities to team (or school who supported them). Ahhhh the new world we live and suffer in. As I have "advanced" in years, I have come to enjoy the "way it was" where things changed from time to time,but stayed the same.....
 
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OleRockyTop said:
Shows just how good of a job Tom Allen has done
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It hasn't necessarily been reflected in the national recruiting rankings, but Hoosier fans perceive that Allen is recruiting better players. Near as I can tell, this is mostly due to the increase in the number of players from the state of Florida. This includes Philyor, former Vol commit Michael Penix, Jr. and quite a few other freshmen and sophomores that they are optimistic about. Penix is the first freshman to start at QB for Indiana since Antwaan Randle El. He beat out Ramsey for the starting job in the Fall and has played great, but has been plagued by injuries. He was named the Big Ten Freshman of the Week in 2 of his first 3 starts, but he suffered a season-ending injury in the Northwestern game. Ramsey was the starter last year and he has been great, too.
 
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savannahfan said:
The whole team (players for game) looks just a little unsettled to me. AND this makes me very unsettled as to our ability to win. This transferring sh-- that allows players to come and go at will is not too good for the game. Nor is the now excepted "sitting out" by players who place self above responsibilities to team (or school who supported them). Ahhhh the new world we live and suffer in. As I have "advanced" in years, I have come to enjoy the "way it was" where things changed from time to time,but stayed the same.....
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Sometimes a little anxiety can be good.
They're anxious to end the season with a win.

We should shock them pretty good.
I do anticipate Brian Maurer and JG having to play both.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
They sounds like a good team. Hope we're not overlooking them
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Overlooking them?? Looking for/at what?? Spring practice, looking at a long exciting weight room session, lots of exciting school room classes, and on and on.... Yeah, guess there's lots to "overlook" this game for.
 
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Probably been a while since they've played in the heat and humidity. What's the temp supposed to be for the game?
 
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BruisedOrange said:
Logical reasoning. But also...
with the benefit of time to put in some special plays or packages, in the 1st half I truly expect to see a pass from the wildcat formation. If we have another RB or WR who can throw the ball.

For sure, our staff will be looking for ways to make orangeade out of the Jennings' 1st half lemon.
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A non-respected Tyler Byrd will light them up too!
 
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savannahfan said:
The whole team (players for game) looks just a little unsettled to me. AND this makes me very unsettled as to our ability to win. This transferring sh-- that allows players to come and go at will is not too good for the game. Nor is the now excepted "sitting out" by players who place self above responsibilities to team (or school who supported them). Ahhhh the new world we live and suffer in. As I have "advanced" in years, I have come to enjoy the "way it was" where things changed from time to time,but stayed the same.....
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I kind of look at this as an extended bye week and CJP has done well off of bye weeks with wins against Mizzou and Auburn and closer than expected loss against Georgia if you take away the last 10 minutes of the game.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
Logical reasoning. But also...
with the benefit of time to put in some special plays or packages, in the 1st half I truly expect to see a pass from the wildcat formation. If we have another RB or WR who can throw the ball.

For sure, our staff will be looking for ways to make orangeade out of the Jennings' 1st half lemon.
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If you don't have a legitimate threat of a pass or reverse, the Wildcat is typically a 1-3 yard per play formation IMHO as everyone keys on one player.
 
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savannahfan said:
Overlooking them?? Looking for/at what?? Spring practice, looking at a long exciting weight room session, lots of exciting school room classes, and on and on.... Yeah, guess there's lots to "overlook" this game for.
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"Indiana football"...…...doesn't exactly have the resume of the New England Patriots.

But, hopefully we are focused!

And the good JG shows up
 
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