Gary Patteson or Chris Peterson

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BoroVol20 said:
chip kelly?
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This. I'd make Phil Knight pay up to keep him. The one thing that's worrisome bout Kelly is he benefits from his location and the Nike connection. It's easy to convince kids from Cali to go a state away. He'd have to make some in roads in the South. Don't think this scenario will ever happen though.
 
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Peterson is staying put. He has a sick child and has turned down every offer because of it.
 
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Panthro said:
Where exactly is the money going to come from to pay Dooley'sbuyout and this imaginary number needed to bring a great coach in?
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It's really not that hard. Winning programs and excited fanbases means more money for the AD.

Bama saw a $36 million revenue spike during Saban's first season. Were they winning? No, they lost to ULM. Was the fanbase selling out games and gobbling up merchandise after years of mediocrity? You betcha.

I have no doubt that revenues would increase to cover the expense of the buyouts and a high caliber coach.
 
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spudvol said:
Not true...as I have pointed out 63 times now.
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That he doesn't have a sick child or he won't leave? If it's about his kid , I have seen it posted on just about every other teams board when they were looking for a coach. I thought they mentioned it on ESPN. I may be dead wrong , but I thought that is why he has turned down all these jobs. Either way , he must not want to leave because he has had many better than where he still is. He must love it there if true.
 
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If Dooley is worth $2m, I'd give Patterson about $1m and I wouldn't give Peterson an interview.

Yes, the last few years (and two weeks) have sucked, but that is not the answer. Ask Colorado how good the Boise St coach worked out for them. And we should also know how well their "stout" defense translates.
 
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Vol2424 said:
That he doesn't have a sick child or he won't leave? If it's about his kid , I have seen it posted on just about every other teams board when they were looking for a coach. I thought they mentioned it on ESPN. I may be dead wrong , but I thought that is why he has turned down all these jobs. Either way , he must not want to leave because he has had many better than where he still is. He must love it there if true.
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13 years ago, when Petersen was the WR coach at Oregon, his 13 month old son was treated for a brain tumor that had spread to his spine. All the medical treatment took place in Oregon. The only medical procedures the kid has had in Idaho is an annual MRI which can be done anywhere. The kid is fine.
 
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spudvol said:
13 years ago, when Petersen was the WR coach at Oregon, his 13 month old son was treated for a brain tumor that had spread to his spine. All the medical treatment took place in Oregon. The only medical procedures the kid has had in Idaho is an annual MRI which can be done anywhere. The kid is fine.
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Thanks for clearing that up. You hear something enough times , you start to believe it. I guess it's a good excuse when he turns down jobs as sad as it sounds. And he has turned down some good ones.
 
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oregonvol said:
you know, I think either can be had for 5 million per year. And it would probably be a good long term investment. I mean a nationally relevant program has to rake in millions more than a program doomed to decades of utter irrelevance right? That said, the real question is, "how much is Hart prepared to risk?" and I don't think we've seen any evidence to suggest he's a real aggressive AD. But at least he cant be as passive as Hamilton was. It's just not possible.
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One of the biggest questions we need to ask ourselves and the AD would ask a potential coach is how can you recruit top level talent. While I think our dissapointment with this year thus far is NOT talent but poor coacking (X and O and making players better) the long term success of our VOLS will be getting very strong recruits in Orange. When Bray, Hunter and Patterson are gon we have ZERO bona fide playmakers.

That is why the next guy must have such a great reputation he can immediately go out and begin getting top shelf talent. I am not sure the guys mentioned can do that.
 
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If Tennessee is in the market for a new Head Coach after this season they will have to compete with Arkansas in the SEC. Tradition wise Tennessee is much more attractive but that can also be a negative if a potential coach is hoping for a little less of a hot seat. I live in Fayetteville... very passionate fans but unlike Tennessee a coach can lose to Alabama every year and beat LSU once every couple of years and they will build you a statue. Arkansas has to go out of state to get the big time players just like Tennessee does so recruiting is a wash. Arkansas also has a lot of money right and a lot of boosters ready to write a blank check to the right guy. The school and the fans got a taste of what it is like to be relevant and will be trying very hard to get back... as will Tennessee.
 
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Both are proven winners and would be massive improvement the second they stepped on campus. Recruits would see UT moving the in the right direction if either guy was hired. If I had to choose, I would pick Patterson as I like the idea of having recruiting ties in Texas. I think the number for each coach would be around 4.2 million per year.
 
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spudvol said:
If Wilcox was "exposed" then Sunseri has been stripped bare and marched around the village.
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To this point, Sunseri has given no one any evidence that he is worthy of the $700,000/year that he is being paid to coach the defense. I was worried about hiring a lifelong assistant as our DC, and so far my concerns are valid. The Vols have talent on Defense, but the pass rush is just nonexistence to this point.

The defense was completely out schemed by UF in the second half, and again last night by the mighty Zips. If Sunseri is having difficulty defending the Zips wait until he sees the Dawgs next week between the hedges.

Unless the Vols, flip the switch soon and start playing respectable defense, the hiring of Sunseri will be the finial nail in Dooley's coffin.

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Chris Peterson has been my #1 choice the last 2 coaching hires, but the more I think about it, what is there to show that he or Patterson has what it takes to recruit in the SEC (Patterson may have few ties to the south, but Peterson has none that I am aware of). It's a lot easier in Boise where there is no hot seat than Knoxville where it is scalding and you are arguably the most scrutinized person in the state.
 
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neither coach has any experience recruiting the south---it would take 2-3 years to build relationships with high school coaches.
 
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ToddyHill said:
Patterson isn't leaving TCU...period.
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Yeah these people will never get this. Patterson has built the program the way he has wanted. No way he'd leave all that to come to the mess this fan base has created in its head. TCU boosters have plenty of money too, so don't think that's an issue.
 
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FayettevilleVOL said:
If Tennessee is in the market for a new Head Coach after this season they will have to compete with Arkansas in the SEC. Tradition wise Tennessee is much more attractive but that can also be a negative if a potential coach is hoping for a little less of a hot seat. I live in Fayetteville... very passionate fans but unlike Tennessee a coach can lose to Alabama every year and beat LSU once every couple of years and they will build you a statue. Arkansas has to go out of state to get the big time players just like Tennessee does so recruiting is a wash. Arkansas also has a lot of money right and a lot of boosters ready to write a blank check to the right guy. The school and the fans got a taste of what it is like to be relevant and will be trying very hard to get back... as will Tennessee.
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Totally agree with u here, and a concern of mine when all this fire cdd talk gets going. My only question is...is Malzahn not a given for next yr?? Just wondering...
 
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