Game Plans (and why it isn't time to panic)

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It seems that everyone is in a panic now over UT's D and especially the secondary. I have been accused of panic for problems that can have long term negative implications for the program. But it isn't time to say that what we saw yesterday is even a particular short term negative.

Jones game planned giving a lot of respect to BGSU. There are things he could have done that would have made it a bigger win... but the risks were greater as well. So what he did is focus on the run game then put UT in a lot of man coverage. The hope was to stop their run game first, which they did, then generate a pass rush... which they didn't very consistently.

BGSU appears to have assumed that's what UT would do. In response, they took a lot of deep shots and had some success. They called MANY run blitzes in the hopes of getting UT to throw it more and speed the game up. UT's GREATEST success is that the OL and RB's ran right over a team that was committing pretty much everyone to the run. Even though BGSU isn't a great D... it is impressive when they throw everything against the run and you still get almost 400 yds on the ground.

Could UT have played more zone? Probably but then BGSU goes to their controlled pass game and keeps UT's D on the field all day. How ugly could that have gotten on a hot and humid day in the 4th qtr? Could UT have passed it 30+ times and lit their D up? Yes. Dobbs probably could have had 500 yds passing against that secondary.

Instead, the secondary got burned a few times. Several times they got burned even with guys in almost perfect position. If you don't sack the QB and then he throws it that precisely to a guy who makes a great catch... you ain't stopping it. About the only thing they could have done better was to jam him off the line... but that was a pretty big WR.

SO... while I believed that UT should have kept them to under 20 points... I believe COMPLETELY that the 30 was a product as much of the game plan as the secondary. The only thing I found truly disappointing is that UT didn't get more effective pressure on their QB than they did. But tip your hat. Their experienced OL played extremely well.
 
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Yes, give BGSU some credit; that WR was a man, and their experienced OL and QB played well.
 
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BGSU's passing game was on point. The three main things our DB's have got to improve on are jamming at the line, looking for or sensing the throws better, and jumping routes. Veteran guys do that. Moseley and Foreman did not. They often got beat at the line and were playing catchup. That said as well as their QB was passing and their recievers catching BGSU still would have had a good day with our guys playing better.
 
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Nice analysis, SJT, I'm buying all of it.

In fact, one of your final comments and what Butch said going into the locker room at halftime yesterday echo each other very closely. Asked about BGSU's surprising success passing the ball and how Tennessee would counter it, Butch said, paraphrased: It starts with getting a better pass rush, and more pressure on the QB. That's what we need first. Then after that, you gotta win some one-on-ones.

So what? Take some of that heavy disappointment in Moseley, Foreman, and M. Abernathy, and share it out a bit with the DLine. One team, one effort, one result.

Thanks, SJT, enjoyed reading that!
 
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Yes, give BGSU some credit; that WR was a man, and their experienced OL and QB played well.

BGSU goes on to play at Maryland and Purdue this season. They'll beat one of those teams... In fact, they might win going away against Purdue.
 
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IMO a conservative plan, not opening up the playbook if you can score 60 anyway. I expect to see a lot more firepower from the passing game from now on, which will only enhance the run.

D plan likely was somewhat vanilla also as far as blitz packages. Not having Martinez may have hurt.

This team has the firepower to beat OU, and UF has the inexperience and youth to lose to this UT squad.

Time to make it happen.
 
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If you are going to play press corner, then you'd better jam the receiver getting off the LOS and/or be able to run with a WR going straight down the field. We played close but did not jam, that I saw, and then the BG WRs ran past our corners, with either no or late safety help. You can bet that teams will pick on all of our DBs not named Sutton.
 
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59-30 in the first game of the season w/ the assistant/DB coach missing are reasons to not panic. There's no more explanation needed for logical people without agendas.
 
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This was a bowl team with an experienced offense and a good game plan, not your typical playing for the dough opener. Good test before the Sooners come to town. I wanted to see more of #1 but the fast paced BG offense eliminated that option.
 
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59-30 in the first game of the season w/ the assistant/DB coach missing are reasons to not panic. There's no more explanation needed for logical people without agendas.

That's simply not true. My argument is that there was far more to the things that went wrong than many are acknowledging... but there is plenty of room for logical people without agendas to disagree with your simplistic post.

The CB's didn't jam receivers effectively and especially early in the game. The pass rush didn't get there. Barnett and Maggitt were neutralized- they only had 8 tackle total between them.

There's a lot to consider here. I've tried to give good consideration to the pros and cons... and have concluded that it wasn't the disaster that some seem to think.
 
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I have to disagree to a point. I thought the D-line played ok. You cannot expect any pass rusher to get to the QB on a two step drop. Also our secondary was rarely in position. Their QB made some nice throws but the wr's having a step or two on our corners made it a much easier throw. And when we had to start playing 2 safeties deep, they began to run the ball much more effectively. MLB needs to be reassessed as well as CB's not named sutton. Credit to BGSU but not that much credit.
 
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This was the perfect type of team/opening game to prepare us for OU. They throw it around the park. Also, I am definitely encouraged by the O line play and RB's. We just need to tackle better and come out and punch them in the mouth. GO VOLS!
 
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The corners we not really jamming at the line but sitting on them making contact after they were up to speed. I believe they did not think the receivers would run by them or the qb would have time to throw downfield. After the second torching we probably should have given them a little more respect.
 
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That's simply not true. My argument is that there was far more to the things that went wrong than many are acknowledging... but there is plenty of room for logical people without agendas to disagree with your simplistic post.

The CB's didn't jam receivers effectively and especially early in the game. The pass rush didn't get there. Barnett and Maggitt were neutralized- they only had 8 tackle total between them.

There's a lot to consider here. I've tried to give good consideration to the pros and cons... and have concluded that it wasn't the disaster that some seem to think.
Everytime they threw to Suttons side your point was proven.. they only did it about 2-3 times and almost got picked on one.
I totally agree with your op. I tihnk it was mostly gameplan but I think some of the performance was lack of Martinez.. had he been there I do not think they would have been AS successful as they were. That WR was a terrible matchup with any of our corners not named Sutton. He is listed at 6-3 207 but he looked and played a lot bigger.
Gehrig Dieter Stats, News, Videos, Pictures, Bio - Bowling Green Falcons - ESPN
 
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Everytime they threw to Suttons side your point was proven.. they only did it about 2-3 times and almost got picked on one.
I totally agree with your op. I tihnk it was mostly gameplan but I think some of the performance was lack of Martinez.. had he been there I do not think they would have been AS successful as they were. That WR was a terrible matchup with any of our corners not named Sutton. He is listed at 6-3 207 but he looked and played a lot bigger.
Gehrig Dieter Stats, News, Videos, Pictures, Bio - Bowling Green Falcons - ESPN

The bad news is, I'm starting to look heavily at Oklahoma's game tape, and they have at least two receivers like BGSU's Dieter, and a QB with an even quicker release and nice accuracy. Sutton can cover one, who gets the other(s)?

Breaking it down on the "study up for OK" thread, feel free to join in, but our D really has some work to do this week to fix and adjust for a team that's going to be similarly dangerous downfield.
 
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That's simply not true. My argument is that there was far more to the things that went wrong than many are acknowledging... but there is plenty of room for logical people without agendas to disagree with your simplistic post.

The CB's didn't jam receivers effectively and especially early in the game. The pass rush didn't get there. Barnett and Maggitt were neutralized- they only had 8 tackle total between them.

There's a lot to consider here. I've tried to give good consideration to the pros and cons... and have concluded that it wasn't the disaster that some seem to think.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding but it seems we both agree there's no reason to panic.
 
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The bad news is, I'm starting to look heavily at Oklahoma's game tape, and they have at least two receivers like BGSU's Dieter, and a QB with an even quicker release and nice accuracy. Sutton can cover one, who gets the other(s)?

Breaking it down on the "study up for OK" thread, feel free to join in, but our D really has some work to do this week to fix and adjust for a team that's going to be similarly dangerous downfield.

This may be a very high scoring game!
 

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