Fun fact mentioned during the broadcast

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K-town Vol Fan said:
When CJP stepped on campus there only 2 players on the roster he had previously recruited. 1 being Trey Smith, not sure on the other. With his reputation of an elite recruiter and being that he was recruiting the same areas, that's really telling.

It really showed today.
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I would buy in to this if we were playing Bama every week but we are not. The better comparison would be on how our talent matches up against Florida and South Carolina.

I am willing to bet that Missouri or Kentucky do not have many players that Bama recruited either. So should be they be playing at our level too?
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
When CJP stepped on campus there only 2 players on the roster he had previously recruited. 1 being Trey Smith, not sure on the other. With his reputation of an elite recruiter and being that he was recruiting the same areas, that's really telling.

It really showed today.
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Hacksaw said:
He's totally throwing the players under the bus, IMO. Maybe it's warranted, but I don't care for it.
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^^ these seem to be the facts, imo (note: an experienced, proficient high school teacher, in his first year at a new, underdeveloped school, shouldn't throw his kids under the bus simply because they don't know everything he's been teaching for 15 years at his prior schools).


1. So, he / his staff goes out and personally recruits Keller Chryst, yet won't play him.

2. And, there's no excusing the fact, that you've worked with JG and this OL since spring, and can't score more than 6 points against Charlotte.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
When CJP stepped on campus there only 2 players on the roster he had previously recruited. 1 being Trey Smith, not sure on the other. With his reputation of an elite recruiter and being that he was recruiting the same areas, that's really telling.

It really showed today.
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He recruited Shamburger...and Warrior when he was at UGA.
 
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SmokyRiverDog said:
That's the best case scenario for an outcome when you run a coaching search that is a national joke.
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And why was it such a joke? Because of what you see on this board for one. Any coach considering this job had to look at the past administration problems and the demands of the fans as well. The straw that broke the camels back was how bad our roster was and how utterly horrible this year's schedule is. They all saw 3 to 5 wins, but us as fans don't get that. Also, when playing in a 2 division conference, they saw no chance at ever winning the division because we play Bama every year. Who wants a job coaching a team that is at least 0-1 before the first snap?
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Ryan Johnson was offered by Alabama. Not sure if it was by Pruitt or not. We had plenty of other guys offered by Georgia around the time he was there too. Not sure if he was the recruiter on them or not. We have multiple people offered by Urban at Ohio State, Brian Kelly at Notre Dame and other major programs.

Recruiting hasn't been a problem here as much as people want to complain about no talent. It's that none of it has developed worth a heck in years and years outside of the occasional spot development.
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It's not about the team having NO talent...... it's where the level of talent is.....the Oline is void..... barren......desolate..... and this group is what makes the offense go.
 
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When he was recruiting else where he was recruiting for another head coach. These HC were established and players come as much for the HC as the position coach. Now he has to recruit based upon his own merits as a HC. It's yet to be determined if he can still get the same talent here or convince kids to come here vs Bama or Georgia, etc.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Define “Elite Talent” we have on this team because I’m sure as hell not seeing it right now.

I don’t blame Pruitt being frustrated with his team’s performance. Hell, I wouldn’t let half of them walk back to the locker room if they refuse to do their given assignments.

Bring in SEC players who are big, tough, and that’s willing to do things the right way that Pruitt keeps mentioning.
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How much "elite talent" does Charlotte have? Because they outplayed us in many aspects. How much "elite talent" does Kentucky have?

If Pruitt is frustrated with his team's performance, then he should do something about it. That's why we're paying him a fortune. He's not a fan, this is his job!

As I said, maybe this is all part of some strategy and we'll see better results in the coming weeks. We keep saying that every week. If not, then how much is one recruiting class supposed to help? Do we keep seeing this same pattern of excuse-making next season? I sure hope not, but I'm not feeling optimistic based on what I've seen this season.
 
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volfannbama said:
I dont care for it either. And when we look pathetic against a team full of people that have no power 5 conference offers, it makes you wonder what the issues really are.
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Wonder?

Recruiting, Development, and Depth. A lot of holes to fill, a lot of development and a lot of Depth.

"Rise to the top" is a slogan that a previous coach used in his coaching career.

He didn't create this mess. Long list before he gets to CJP.

Again, this is a Reality Check for the fans not the players. Players know it and I am sure a lot of information, techniques, and responsibilities are new to them.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Wonder?

Recruiting, Development, and Depth. A lot of holes to fill, a lot of development and a lot of Depth.

"Rise to the top" is a slogan that a previous coach used in his coaching career.

He didn't create this mess. Long list before he gets to CJP.

Again, this is a Reality Check for the fans not the players. Players know it and I am sure a lot of information, techniques, and responsibilities are new to them.
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So recruiting, development and talent are the reason we mustered one offensive td against uncc? Lol,.brah.....
 
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volfannbama said:
So recruiting, development and talent are the reason we mustered one offensive td against uncc? Lol,.brah.....
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Pretty much you got it. You get the prize.

Can't fix what's been broke for 6 years in 8 games. Some of us have been posting the LOS for years....

Even when the previous coach knew it, he recruited what he could but expected their stars to carry their performance. It doesn't work that way....

Our line is weak and soft.
 
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volfannbama said:
So recruiting, development and talent are the reason we mustered one offensive td against uncc? Lol,.brah.....
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We are not elite at the most important position and that’s at the line of scrimmage.

The O-Line flat out sucks. Guys are soft as charmon and Pruitt is not used to working with a limited roster.

I’m actually surprised JG isn’t severly hurt by now considering the beatings he’s took all season.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Ryan Johnson was offered by Alabama. Not sure if it was by Pruitt or not. We had plenty of other guys offered by Georgia around the time he was there too. Not sure if he was the recruiter on them or not. We have multiple people offered by Urban at Ohio State, Brian Kelly at Notre Dame and other major programs.

Recruiting hasn't been a problem here as much as people want to complain about no talent. It's that none of it has developed worth a heck in years and years outside of the occasional spot development.
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What a lot of people still never get is being "offered" is one thing, having a true committable offer is quite another. Do you think Ryan Johnson would ever ply for bubba or jawga??? Be real, if a normal fan can see it do you not think the coaches at those schools see it too? Every school "offers" 60-80 guys in each cylce, most cant commit unless something catostrophic goes wrong with the ones they really want.
 
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UT-Rex said:
^^ these seem to be the facts, imo (note: an experienced, proficient high school teacher, in his first year at a new, underdeveloped school, shouldn't throw his kids under the bus simply because they don't know everything he's been teaching for 15 years at his prior schools).


1. So, he / his staff goes out and personally recruits Keller Chryst, yet won't play him.

2. And, there's no excusing the fact, that you've worked with JG and this OL since spring, and can't score more than 6 points against Charlotte.
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You seem to be suggesting that JG is the reason they cant score, I wasnt aware he was supposed to be run blocking also.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
We are not elite at the most important position and that’s at the line of scrimmage.

The O-Line flat out sucks. Guys are soft as charmon and Pruitt is not used to working with a limited roster.

I’m actually surprised JG isn’t severly hurt by now considering the beatings he’s took all season.
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UNC Charlotte.......Charlotte.
 
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Hacksaw said:
Our other coaches took responsibility, too. But none of them put as much blame on the players as Pruitt has. Maybe it's all part of his coaching philosophy and maybe it will prove to be a stroke of genius in the end. Right now it just sounds a little too much like a convenient excuse for not showing much improvement.
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Which coaches pressers have you watched? I don't remember ever hearing a Dooley or a Jones especially a Jones ever taking responsibility for anything wrong within the program. And I was a Jones supporter and still say he blamed the players for everything.
 
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I think most people’s impression of Pruitt is he is very straight forward and tells things exactly like he sees them. I think it’s apparent he doesn’t like talking to the media. If he didn’t have people asking him every 10 minutes about his team and why they played like they did, I don’t think you would ever hear anything from him. He wouldn’t be going out of his way to throw anybody under the bus. It’s painfully obvious the players he has right now are not as good as the players on most of the teams we have to play. The best coaches in the world could coach them for the next ten years and they still have a ceiling that is below a lot of SECteams. A lot of people on here want to blame it all on the coaches. All of them seem to have had a lot of success before they got here and I don’t believe they turned dumb when they hit Knoxville. He has said there have been times he should have done better. And for the ones who keep saying he is being paid a ton of money, I guess meaning he should be providing better results, he is being paid what they offered him. Would any of those people have said, “No, you need to pay me less because I haven’t been a head coach before.” No. You take what they offer you or you turn them down if you think you are worth more.
 
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FiremedicVOL127 said:
Which coaches pressers have you watched? I don't remember ever hearing a Dooley or a Jones especially a Jones ever taking responsibility for anything wrong within the program. And I was a Jones supporter and still say he blamed the players for everything.
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Took me about 10 seconds on Google: Tennessee coach Jones takes responsibility for loss

All coaches pretty much say the same things. Most of them try not to focus too much blame on the players. Pruitt has chosen to take a different approach. I just hope he knows what he's doing.
 
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The Tall Gguy said:
I think Pruitt is as pissed as most of the fans. But what's he going to do?

Can't bench everyone.
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True, but he's also making more money than a lot of the fans will see in a lifetime...who are paying the university to watch his product.
 
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