Fun fact for those that think HB starts day 1.

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Through 4 games:

HB- 1,111 yards passing - 59.7 comp % - 9 tds - 5 ints.

BM- 1,375 yards passing- 67.7 comp % - 12 tds - 4 ints

I bring this up for one reason. BM is a Vol NOW and he’s gaining experience. Although many are calling for him now due to the lack of production, there seems to be this feeling that he’s been recruited over for 2020 and I personally don’t see it. I’m a “show me” kind of guy and what I’ve seen speaks volumes. If he starts or just simply keeps playing every game this season you have to believe that with that experience he comes into 2020 a step ahead should JG move on.

This is not meant to take anything away from HB as I’ve been quoted many times saying he is is too good to sit long but I can assure you the same is true for BM.
 
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I wish I could read into that more, but kids with ridiculously good HS numbers roll into college and flop all the time, while others come in with average numbers and excel. You get guys like Peyton (7500 yards and, what, 90-ish TDs?), but a lot with similar stats but very dissimilar situations. High school is an uneven playing field that can distort a lot of stats for quarterbacks. Bailey may come in day one with better tools, for all we know. Not to take anything away from Mauer (as you say about Bailey).
 
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I don't, umm, care which of the, umm, quarterbacks starts next, umm season. Umm, the facts are, umm, Jarrett, umm, just doesn't have the, umm, ceiling, that the younger, umm, guys do. Aight. Eh, while I think he is further along than those younger guys, umm. He should be, aight. Umm, Brian, he's got a lot of, umm, upside. Umm, he's just, umm, raw. The whole argument, umm, that without Jarrett the offense is limited is garbage. Simplifying the offense so that he, umm, gets it, is the same, umm, thing, as reducing the complexity of it so that, umm, Brian can handle it. The difference, aight, is after 3 more weeks, Brian, umm, will be on par and possibly have a better, umm, grasp and capability to run it than, ummm, Jarrett.

Yes, after listening to that press conference today I'm a little, umm, fed up with, umm. Is it petty, yes, but I don't care. He's paid to coach and represent, and, umm over and over, sounds like a dumbass.
 
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I’m not debating you per se, but it’s hard to compare the two based on numbers alone. Did Maurer face the same level of talent as Bailey? Did Maurer have the same stud tight end/receiver that Harrison throws to? How many of the INTs are the QB’s responsibility and how many are not? Which QB threw short passes more and which one threw more intermediate/long passes.

I get what you’re saying and I would love to have Maurer get an upper hand on the 2020 competition, but it ultimately boils down to what Pruitt and Chaney want.
 
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germantown902 said:
I’m not debating you per se, but it’s hard to compare the two based on numbers alone. Did Maurer face the same level of talent as Bailey? Did Maurer have the same stud tight end/receiver that Harrison throws to? How many of the INTs are the QB’s responsibility and how many are not? Which QB threw short passes more and which one threw more intermediate/long passes.

I get what you’re saying and I would love to have Maurer get an upper hand on the 2020 competition, but it ultimately boils down to what Pruitt and Chaney want.
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I get it. It’s not all about the numbers but some think it is. So I thought I would point that out. And yes.... different teams, different strengths and weaknesses. Different results. Although tbh BMs team didn’t have many/if any strengths outside of him. I know HB plays better competition according to the rankings but a lot of people underestimate the difference in Florida HS football vs Georgia. Merietta actually plays a team from BMs division this coming Friday. That should be interesting if Edgewater is anywhere near the team they were last year.
 
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jamesthesame said:
Fans are delusional about recruits.

Look at JGs recruiting thread.

People thought we would be retiring his jersey after he was gone.

Every recruit is the next superstar.
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I agree if said recruit is a 4* or higher. Which is what prompted this thread.
 
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No idea... and I don't care. I just want an SEC quality QB. In fact, I'd like to go at least two deep and preferably 3. I know the OP is a BM fan and knows him. I know there's a cult following JG. I know others are convinced that HB is going to be the next Manning. I haven't seen any who've sold out to Shrout but maybe they just haven't found the board yet.

At this point... give me someone at least as good as Ainge and let's see if we can't rebuild the rest of the roster. Ainge was the "dink and dunk" master... but he was a master and that O could move the ball and score points in spite of having one of the least talented WR groups UT has had in the last 30 years at least.
 
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sjt18 said:
No idea... and I don't care. I just want an SEC quality QB. In fact, I'd like to go at least two deep and preferably 3. I know the OP is a BM fan and knows him. I know there's a cult following JG. I know others are convinced that HB is going to be the next Manning. I haven't seen any who've sold out to Shrout but maybe they just haven't found the board yet.

At this point... give me someone at least as good as Ainge and let's see if we can't rebuild the rest of the roster. Ainge was the "dink and dunk" master... but he was a master and that O could move the ball and score points in spite of having one of the least talented WR groups UT has had in the last 30 years at least.
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Actually I’m thinking we’ll have 2 given time. Do we keep them both? That’s another conversation.
 
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Kinglberry said:
I don't, umm, care which of the, umm, quarterbacks starts next, umm season. Umm, the facts are, umm, Jarrett, umm, just doesn't have the, umm, ceiling, that the younger, umm, guys do. Aight. Eh, while I think he is further along than those younger guys, umm. He should be, aight. Umm, Brian, he's got a lot of, umm, upside. Umm, he's just, umm, raw. The whole argument, umm, that without Jarrett the offense is limited is garbage. Simplifying the offense so that he, umm, gets it, is the same, umm, thing, as reducing the complexity of it so that, umm, Brian can handle it. The difference, aight, is after 3 more weeks, Brian, umm, will be on par and possibly have a better, umm, grasp and capability to run it than, ummm, Jarrett.

Yes, after listening to that press conference today I'm a little, umm, fed up with, umm. Is it petty, yes, but I don't care. He's paid to coach and represent, and, umm over and over, sounds like a dumbass.
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Where are all the done done it’s.
 
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sjt18 said:
No idea... and I don't care. I just want an SEC quality QB. In fact, I'd like to go at least two deep and preferably 3. I know the OP is a BM fan and knows him. I know there's a cult following JG. I know others are convinced that HB is going to be the next Manning. I haven't seen any who've sold out to Shrout but maybe they just haven't found the board yet.

At this point... give me someone at least as good as Ainge and let's see if we can't rebuild the rest of the roster. Ainge was the "dink and dunk" master... but he was a master and that O could move the ball and score points in spite of having one of the least talented WR groups UT has had in the last 30 years at least.
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I’m actually a Shrout fan as well tbh. The kid has went about his business quietly and keeps to himself it seems. On the flip side of that, because he seems to keep to himself he doesn’t seem the vocal type. I think we are all guilty of looking at his HS numbers and use it as a tool to predict future success based on what we see now and they seem to match. Right now I see him as a very capable backup that ANY team would love to have.
 
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Johnnyreb#VFL said:
Kasim Hill will have something to say about this topic soon for those of you who forgot he was on our roster.
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Haven’t watched a lot of him but from what I’ve heard he’s a DT qb that’s torn both MCLs and struggles with accuracy? Idk how much he would want to run anymore but who knows.... you could be right.
 
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Kinglberry said:
I don't, umm, care which of the, umm, quarterbacks starts next, umm season. Umm, the facts are, umm, Jarrett, umm, just doesn't have the, umm, ceiling, that the younger, umm, guys do. Aight. Eh, while I think he is further along than those younger guys, umm. He should be, aight. Umm, Brian, he's got a lot of, umm, upside. Umm, he's just, umm, raw. The whole argument, umm, that without Jarrett the offense is limited is garbage. Simplifying the offense so that he, umm, gets it, is the same, umm, thing, as reducing the complexity of it so that, umm, Brian can handle it. The difference, aight, is after 3 more weeks, Brian, umm, will be on par and possibly have a better, umm, grasp and capability to run it than, ummm, Jarrett.

Yes, after listening to that press conference today I'm a little, umm, fed up with, umm. Is it petty, yes, but I don't care. He's paid to coach and represent, and, umm over and over, sounds like a dumbass.
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I bet you made of saban in his early years as HC too, you realize that is where Pruitt gets it from right? You guys are pure gold.
 
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1vol8 said:
Haven’t watched a lot of him but from what I’ve heard he’s a DT qb that’s torn both MCLs and struggles with accuracy? Idk how much he would want to run anymore but who knows.... you could be right.
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Don’t know much other than he is a pro-style qb with two years of eligibility left.
 
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1vol8 said:
Through 4 games:

HB- 1,111 yards passing - 59.7 comp % - 9 tds - 5 ints.

BM- 1,375 yards passing- 67.7 comp % - 12 tds - 4 ints

I bring this up for one reason. BM is a Vol NOW and he’s gaining experience. Although many are calling for him now due to the lack of production, there seems to be this feeling that he’s been recruited over for 2020 and I personally don’t see it. I’m a “show me” kind of guy and what I’ve seen speaks volumes. If he starts or just simply keeps playing every game this season you have to believe that with that experience he comes into 2020 a step ahead should JG move on.

This is not meant to take anything away from HB as I’ve been quoted many times saying he is is too good to sit long but I can assure you the same is true for BM.
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By now most know that Pruitt sucks, some admit it, some don't. Nothing wrong with either. But I would guess those clamoring for HB like he is the savior next year are just clinging to any hope they can that things might improve.
True there are alot of good freshman out there killing it, but Tennessee is so jacked up in every facet it's gonna take alot more than a freshman qb to fix it
 
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volfannbama said:
By now most know that Pruitt sucks, some admit it, some don't. Nothing wrong with either. But I would guess those clamoring for HB like he is the savior next year are just clinging to any hope they can that things might improve.
True there are alot of good freshman out there killing it, but Tennessee is so jacked up in every facet it's gonna take alot more than a freshman qb to fix it
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That couldn’t be more true.
 
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I like both, but sr years are very different. BM played for a talent challenged team. He had to throw almost every down to try to keep his team out of the mercy rule. HB is playing with more talent in a very competitive region. A few times last year BM put up video game numbers and lost....badly.

I'll be happy if either can truly run the offense next year....or JT
 
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If, HB starts Day One, what will JG do? I realize JG is a poor example of a QB, and an even worse example of an SEC QB, but won't he be real upset and stuff???
 
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