Fulmer's Sideline Demeanor Today/Phil's Fire (merged)

#27
#27
Grateful Vol said:
My friend's uncle is close to some guys on the staff, he told him that Fulmer has never been as pissed as he was after UCLA. Apparently Fulmer has been up in people's faces for 2 weeks now.
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Well, I'm not friends with anybody, but I said that to somebody before game started today. I think it's as mad as I've seen him (quotes in paper, interviews, etc. since he's been HC). I think the team's performance vs. UCLA really surprised him - not sure that's a good thing, tho'.
 
#28
#28
I'm not a Fulmer basher but, you can't wait till Saturday afternoon to start coaching. It's to late then. He needs to be coaching his staff and his players with that same intensity the other 6 days of the week.
 
#32
#32
travelvol said:
i didn't see anything today that has convinced me we will be better that 6-6.
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I don't necessarily disagree, but I would much rather see him in some people's faces than clapping after a turnover, no matter what his motivation is.
 
#37
#37
travelvol said:
i didn't see anything today that has convinced me we will be better that 6-6.
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As long as fans beleive we will finish 6-6 then we might get close.But if the fan base will come together and Stay loud then we may finish SEC EAST champs again.Last night on TV Fulmer asked for the fans to be loud because of UAB No Huddle,I sat in section A row 60 sometimes I beleive I heard the clean communication between Webb uab qb and their coaches.NEXT WEEK WE, well if I get tickets But THE FAN BASE HAS GOT TO BE LOUD THE WHOLE TIME. GO VOLS V-O-L-S GO VOLS :clapping: :clapping:
 
#39
#39
RICK0380 said:
As long as fans beleive we will finish 6-6 then we might get close.But if the fan base will come together and Stay loud then we may finish SEC EAST champs again.Last night on TV Fulmer asked for the fans to be loud because of UAB No Huddle,I sat in section A row 60 sometimes I beleive I heard the clean communication between Webb uab qb and their coaches.NEXT WEEK WE, well if I get tickets But THE FAN BASE HAS GOT TO BE LOUD THE WHOLE TIME. GO VOLS V-O-L-S GO VOLS :clapping: :clapping:
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You met fulmermanic and gsvol? I get the feeling you all would hit it off.
 
#42
#42
Ohio Vol said:
If some pinhead attempts to "correct" me, I will.
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I'm just bored and wanting to read some decent insight. Thus my question. Here's hoping my comment didn't invoke the pinhead comment. Anybody want to correct OV on whatever it is he was talking about?
 
#43
#43
hmanvolfan said:
I'm just bored and wanting to read some decent insight.
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Read what I have to say; that's always good insight.:p

Thus my question. Here's hoping my comment didn't invoke the pinhead comment.
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Nope. If it had, I'd have unloaded a two- or three-paragraph response.

Anybody want to correct OV on whatever it is he was talking about?
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C'mon, someone do it! The original comment from me was that "Sideline demeanor is the most overrated and overblown aspect of coaching."
 
#44
#44
Ohio Vol said:
Read what I have to say; that's always good insight.:p



Nope. If it had, I'd have unloaded a two- or three-paragraph response.



C'mon, someone do it! The original comment from me was that "Sideline demeanor is the most overrated and overblown aspect of coaching."
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Ok, I'll bite in the name of journalism. If you spend all of your coaching time during the week teaching and installing a game plan and one of your knucklehead players blows his assignment and costs the team a score or at least big yardage by the opposing team, should you display diplomatic demeanor or get in the offenders face in the name of hoping the mistake won't be repeated?
 
#45
#45
hmanvolfan said:
Ok, I'll bite in the name of journalism. If you spend all of your coaching time during the week teaching and installing a game plan and one of your knucklehead players blows his assignment and costs the team a score or at least big yardage by the opposing team, should you display diplomatic demeanor or get in the offenders face in the name of hoping the mistake won't be repeated?
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There is no worse place to watch a football game than from the side, particularly as you get down lower to the field. If I'm going to go nuts on the sidelines, I must be absolutely 100% sure of what I just saw, and honestly the view doesn't really allow that to be the case the overwhelming majority of the time.

I think I've lit into someone on the sidelines less than five times in my coaching career, and all came down to someone doing something so unbelievably obvious and stupid that the reaction was warranted.

I firmly believe that more constructive pointed criticism is warranted during film breakdown; everyone can see exactly what happened, including the person making the point and educating on what and what not to do. Going bonkers on the sidelines normally is more theatrical than anything.
 
#46
#46
Plain and simple:
Fulmer only loosens up after a loss or 3. Then amazingly he gets fired up. Please do us all a favor and quit, coach. Then maybe Tennessee can get an aggressive gameday coach.
 
#47
#47
Wylo said:
Plain and simple:
Fulmer only loosens up after a loss or 3. Then amazingly he gets fired up. Please do us all a favor and quit, coach. Then maybe Tennessee can get an aggressive gameday coach.
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I don't know what any of these words mean, as far as gameday coaching goes. I don't care what the coach does or looks like on the sidelines; I want him constantly making adjustments to what the other team's doing. I want him thinking, evaluating, scheming. He shouldn't have to be worrying about the rah-rah stuff. If you're depending on that from your head coach, you're already doomed before kickoff.
 
#48
#48
Vercingetorix said:
I don't know what any of these words mean, as far as gameday coaching goes. I don't care what the coach does or looks like on the sidelines; I want him constantly making adjustments to what the other team's doing. I want him thinking, evaluating, scheming. He shouldn't have to be worrying about the rah-rah stuff. If you're depending on that from your head coach, you're already doomed before kickoff.
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IMO, the gameday crap is a coordinator function with HC input. Overall preparedness is the HC function, so I think he earns his money during the week.

As an aside, I don't believe CPF ever earns what he's paid any longer.
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#49
#49
Ohio Vol said:
There is no worse place to watch a football game than from the side, particularly as you get down lower to the field. If I'm going to go nuts on the sidelines, I must be absolutely 100% sure of what I just saw, and honestly the view doesn't really allow that to be the case the overwhelming majority of the time.

I think I've lit into someone on the sidelines less than five times in my coaching career, and all came down to someone doing something so unbelievably obvious and stupid that the reaction was warranted.

I firmly believe that more constructive pointed criticism is warranted during film breakdown; everyone can see exactly what happened, including the person making the point and educating on what and what not to do. Going bonkers on the sidelines normally is more theatrical than anything.
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Ok. I'm new to the board, but I'll bite off a little of this to chew.

There's a mountain (Rocky Top, if you will) of difference between "going nuts" on the sideline after a bad play and displaying your aggravation. I don't proclaim to be a coach by any means, but I've played a little ball in my past. I would much rather my coach get in my face and reiterate what I did wrong than to stay calm and not say anything to me after I know I screwed up.

There are two types of coaches... There are those that contain their emotions and those who don't. Mark Richt at Georgia used to remain expressionless on the sidelines, not talk to players that didn't execute after a play, and leave criticisms to players up to Off./Def. coordinators. However, he realized that his players WANTED to see him fired up, in good times and bad. The funny thing is his revelation occurred two years ago when UGA was embarassed by UT. Since then, look at what he's done with that team. His players now respect him and his opinions, and they want to make him proud beyond his expectations. And they have.

I'm not sure if it is the constant questioning of Fulmer's abilities as a coach by Alumni and fans or not, but I think some of his players (especially the veterans) have lost some faith in him. His renewed "fire" and emotion for the way the game is being played may be just what his team needs, as well as what he needs. If it means that means Phil has to get a little "theatrical" on the sidelines, then so be it. It's still better than being a whiney little *%#@! like Steve Spurrier infamously throwing his visor and clipboard.

GO VOLS!
 
#50
#50
GA_Vol said:
Ok. I'm new to the board, but I'll bite off a little of this to chew.

There's a mountain (Rocky Top, if you will) of difference between "going nuts" on the sideline after a bad play and displaying your aggravation. I don't proclaim to be a coach by any means, but I've played a little ball in my past. I would much rather my coach get in my face and reiterate what I did wrong than to stay calm and not say anything to me after I know I screwed up.

There are two types of coaches... There are those that contain their emotions and those who don't. Mark Richt at Georgia used to remain expressionless on the sidelines, not talk to players that didn't execute after a play, and leave criticisms to players up to Off./Def. coordinators. However, he realized that his players WANTED to see him fired up, in good times and bad. The funny thing is his revelation occurred two years ago when UGA was embarassed by UT. Since then, look at what he's done with that team. His players now respect him and his opinions, and they want to make him proud beyond his expectations. And they have.

I'm not sure if it is the constant questioning of Fulmer's abilities as a coach by Alumni and fans or not, but I think some of his players (especially the veterans) have lost some faith in him. His renewed "fire" and emotion for the way the game is being played may be just what his team needs, as well as what he needs. If it means that means Phil has to get a little "theatrical" on the sidelines, then so be it. It's still better than being a whiney little *%#@! like Steve Spurrier infamously throwing his visor and clipboard.

GO VOLS!
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I'm feeling a name change for you.
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