Fulmer's raise and extension are what caused this

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jokerama

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Hamilton made him comfortable again IMO.The man figured he had another ride until 2014 and that made things worse...Any thoughts?
 
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I doubt he feels very comfortable now. I was thinking the same as you, that complacency was his biggest problem, that he had lost the fire, and he probably has. But I don't think he knows how to fix the problem any more.
 
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He's not going to feel comfortable after I drive up to Knoxville and give him an atomic wedgie.
 
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Contracts are easily broken: unfortunately, if UT breaks it, they pay $5.5 million cash on that date as the damage.
 
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I think it has more to do with the fact that Fulmer's just not a very good coach.
 
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The question is: is he a big enough man and someone who puts the program first, as he wants to be perceived. If so, he will retire and negotiate a reasonable package. No matter how he views the success of his program, he must, unless he lives in a shell, know the consensus of fans are ready for a change. You reach a certain point in a program where irreputable long-term harm is done. Recruiting drops off, the fan base diminishes, money dries up, perception of the program declines. We are beyond the point of diminishing returns. Changes are imperative.
 
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Godfatha said:
I doubt he feels very comfortable now. I was thinking the same as you, that complacency was his biggest problem, that he had lost the fire, and he probably has. But I don't think he knows how to fix the problem any more.
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Fulmer is very smart, not a good leader or motivator, I don't think he cares enough about special teams, which have been bad. Åmong the MANY reasons for sacking Fulmer, I would be bad special teams coaching at near the top of the list. That is one area where any team can be fairly strong if they pay enuf attention to it. You don't need four-star recruits to cover KOs and punts. Very telling. Fulmer is old and not on top of the program like a good coach should be.
 
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I think the our terrible special teams can be traced to a far greater problem overall with our team that has started to show itself in other areas of our play over the past few years. This problem IMHO has been a lack of attention to details, we just don't seem to execute well in any area.
 
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KB5252 said:
we just don't seem to execute well in any area.
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Isn't the Mustang designed to give up easy yardage for the opposing team? If so, I have to argue that it's been executed to perfection for years now.
 
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I've heard several folks speculate that they may have seen this coming and the buyout was meant to be a reward for past performance in the event that they have to part ways.
 
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Very bad business decision by Hamilton, allowing fulmer's lawyer to get a $5.5 million buyout into the contract after a mediocre season.
 
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VolsRule said:
Very bad business decision by Hamilton, allowing fulmer's lawyer to get a $5.5 million buyout into the contract after a mediocre season.
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We played in the SECCG (the best conference in the country) and even had a very legitimate shot to win the game (should have won the game, I would argue). That team that we lost to won the National Championship. So you might have a slighly inaccurate definition of 'mediocre'. I never said we had a great season, but 'mediocre'
 
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jokerama said:
Hamilton made him comfortable again IMO.The man figured he had another ride until 2014 and that made things worse...Any thoughts?
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Not really.

I think the contract stank in an of itself. All carrots, no sticks.... well maybe just sticks way more expensive than before the contract.

If it was fair to give him an automatic extension for 8 wins, it should have been fair to void the buyout clause for 5 or less wins.
 
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Hamilton jumped the gun on this extension. He felt obligated just because we squeeked our way into the sec title game.
 
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